Muhammad Ali or Bruce Lee?

Originally posted by dadudemon
My mistake, above average. He can still move with the best of them. I run the risk of not being objective...but I think Ali moved better than any other in the entire history's sport.

This does NOT carry any weight with the Ali/Lee fight...it is just an aside.

On a side note, this little kid looks like he may be good one day. Maybe he will become the greatest? I am going to be 100% straight up about this and I am not be embarrassed...I was NEVER this good in any practices/workouts...this kid's skills are awesome.

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Allthe Lee-people have nothing but Ad Ignorantiam arguments.

We now for a fact what Ali's capabilities are/were, as they're recorded and factually verifiable.So, can someone post a Lee fact that compares/counters a Ali statistic?

EG, Ali KO'd 37 well trained fighter weighing in the 200+ range. <--- Top that with a Lee fact.

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Dadudemon, Tyson in is prime would have been KO'd by Ali. Tyson's main weakness was fights lasting more than a few rounds, if he didn't KO someone by the 3-4, he lost steam exponentially, as fact. Ali would have been very difficuly for him to land his killer uppercuts on and Ali would have been dancing and pecking at him until he tired. Most likely scenario.

Originally posted by Robtard

Dadudemon, Tyson in is prime would have been KO'd by Ali. Tyson's main weakness was fights lasting more than a few rounds, if he didn't KO someone by the 3-4, he lost steam exponentially, as fact. Ali would have been very difficuly for him to land his killer uppercuts on and Ali would have been dancing and pecking at him until he tired. Most likely scenario.

really?

in your opinion, how many out of 10 could tyson be expected to take?

Originally posted by inimalist
really?

in your opinion, how many out of 10 could tyson be expected to take?

There's always the "puncher's chance", so maybe a few. But it's highly unlikely that Tyson could have taken out Ali early in the fight and late fights almost usually end with Tyson on his back.

Edit: Ali wa never knocked out in his 5 losses, the reason, he was extremely hard to hit flat on.

Originally posted by dadudemon
That's absolute crap. Stop being a Ali fanboy and get back to reality. Ali was the best in his time, yes. He would he would be an average boxer nowadays....

You mean to tell me that the human body and skill peaked with Ali?

Originally posted by dadudemon
My mistake, above average. He can still move with the best of them. I run the risk of not being objective...but I think Ali moved better than any other in the entire history's sport.

Smoker, it's amazing, isn't it? Yes-No arguments.

Originally posted by Robtard
Smoker, it's amazing, isn't it? Yes-No arguments.

Indeed it is almost as impressive as being able to contradict ones own post so well and so fast, it is a skill even more impressive than catching rice with chopsticks or Internet grooming. We have a lot to learn.

Ali obviously wins.

I like how everyone is completely ignoring the points I am making about Bruce lee and Ali...

Originally posted by Kykiokushin
I like how everyone is completely ignoring the points I am making about Bruce lee and Ali...

Well, if you've brought up valid facts about fighting and Ali, then it can be expected that the "Lee pwns all, because I saw him do it in Enter the Dragon" crowd will ignore you while bringing up shit about thumb-pushups and catching rice with chopsticks. So either get used to it, or cry about it some more.

Originally posted by smoker4

You proved nothing but how consistent I am. Posted a video where some "experts" and "old-timers" commented on his "moves".

I corrected myself to be in line with what I had previously posted...I was being a smart ass...****.

Originally posted by Robtard
Dadudemon, Tyson in is prime would have been KO'd by Ali. Tyson's main weakness was fights lasting more than a few rounds, if he didn't KO someone by the 3-4, he lost steam exponentially, as fact. Ali would have been very difficuly for him to land his killer uppercuts on and Ali would have been dancing and pecking at him until he tired. Most likely scenario.

No. Not at all. Ali would have been KO'd. Thank you for parroting what you have seen sports casters and commentators say about Tyson. Thank you for using him as example that I did NOT bring up.

Originally posted by Robtard
Smoker, it's amazing, isn't it? Yes-No arguments.

Yes, amazing that you will, in vain this time, find any reason to fault find with me. You and I both know what I have said previously...remember mentioning that good memory of yours?

Originally posted by dadudemon
No. Not at all. Ali would have been KO'd. Thank you for parroting what you have seen sports casters and commentators say about Tyson. Thank you for using him as example that I did NOT bring up.

Oh, now I'm parroting, yet everything you've said about Lee is original material. Also, those are Tyson facts (things you tend to avoid/dismiss), look at his record, go on, look. You said today's boxers, Tyson is one of todays boxers who is well known for destroying people.

BTW, this is why you're an unlikable clown. Your dismissal of facts and general foolishness.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Yes, amazing that you will, in vain this time, find any reason to fault find with me. You and I both know what I have said previously...remember mentioning that good memory of yours?

You contradicted yourself and sodomized your own points, don't cry and blame me or smoker over it.

Originally posted by dadudemon
You proved nothing but how consistent I am. Posted a video where some "experts" and "old-timers" commented on his "moves".

I corrected myself to be in line with what I had previously posted...I was being a smart ass...****.

Yes consistent at contradicting yourself, you superior male you.

Originally posted by smoker4
Yes consistent at contradicting yourself, you superior male you.

The worse thing about it, he passes the blame onto us, like we forced him to slit his own foolish throat, the dunce.

Originally posted by smoker4
Yes consistent at contradicting yourself, you superior male you.

Gooooood point. yeah, there is a MAJOR difference between average and above average...one being hyperbole.

Originally posted by Robtard
Oh, now I'm parroting, yet everything you've said about Lee is original material. Also, those are Tyson [b]facts (things you tend to avoid/dismiss), look at his record, go on, look. You said today's boxers, Tyson is one of todays boxers who is well known for destroying people. [/B]

Riiiight, because I said Tyson was a boxer that could destroy Ali in both their primes. Good job.

Originally posted by Robtard
BTW, this is why you're an unlikable clown. Your dismissal of facts and general foolishness.

Speak for yourself. Its your a**holishness and arrogance.

Originally posted by Robtard
You contradicted yourself and sodomized your own points, don't cry and blame me or smoker over it.

Great job at being an idiot. It looks like you've got a posse now.

Originally posted by Robtard
The worse thing about it, he passes the blame onto us, like we forced him to slit his own foolish throat, the dunce.

I KNOW! Just SOOOO horrible. I definitely got distraught and hated myself for using hyperbole.

Originally posted by dadudemon
That's absolute crap. Stop being a Ali fanboy and get back to reality. Ali was the best in his time, yes. He would he would be an average boxer nowadays....

Im afraid thats not true.

Back in those days you got to be the greatest by fighting the best in the whole world, not the best of whatever is left in whatever alphabet belt is left.

Too many pussies out there masquerading as real champs safe in the knowledge that can be one of 10,000,000 champs in different sanctioned belts....But they get exposed.

Ali just beat every adult best male heavyweight on the planet in order to be world champ back when the word meant something.

And he did it three times.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Im afraid thats not true.

Back in those days you got to be the greatest by fighting the best in the whole world, not the best of whatever is left in whatever alphabet belt is left.

Too many pussies out there masquerading as real champs safe in the knowledge that can be one of 10,000,000 champs in different sanctioned belts....But they get exposed.

Ali just beat every adult best male heavyweight on the planet in order to be world champ back when the word meant something.

And he did it three times.

Thanks for not being an a**hole. It works wonders for making a point.

Point taken!

Originally posted by dadudemon
Thanks for not being an a**hole. It works wonders for making a point.

Point taken!