Originally posted by dadudemon
My mistake, above average. He can still move with the best of them. I run the risk of not being objective...but I think Ali moved better than any other in the entire history's sport.This does NOT carry any weight with the Ali/Lee fight...it is just an aside.
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😮 OMG You were serious just then, weren't you...?!!!?
Originally posted by dadudemon
Riiiight, because I said Tyson was a boxer that could destroy Ali in both their primes. Good job.Speak for yourself. Its your a**holishness and arrogance.
Great job at being an idiot. It looks like you've got a posse now.
I KNOW! Just SOOOO horrible. I definitely got distraught and hated myself for using hyperbole.
Yeah, you actually did say "Ali would get KO'd"... are you that stupid that you're contradicting yourself again? If you don't believe me, look above, you just said it.
Edit: Since you won't go and look, here's what you said in reagrds to Ali/Tyson:
Originally posted by dadudemon
No. Not at all. Ali would have been KO'd. Thank you for parroting what you have seen sports casters and commentators say about Tyson. Thank you for using him as example that I did NOT bring up.
"No you!" *stomps little feet*
Like people said, you contradicted yourself, don't cry at us about it.
Now your contradiction was just an exaggeration?
Originally posted by dadudemonNever said otherwise. It still doesn't change your point.
Yes. When you realize that there is more than making point, you will convince others of your POV better.edit- Regardless of how good your point is, it will be lost on the ears of people you are an a**hole to. ✅
Sure, call it splitting hairs, but it is more that you are just a ****ing moron that has no idea what he is talking about half the time.
Originally posted by Robtard
Yeah, you actually did say "Ali would get KO'd"... are you that stupid that you're contradicting yourself again? If you don't believe me, look above, you just said it.
Nice attempt, but it fails. What I did was a straw man. I am right with what I said.
Originally posted by Robtard
"No you!" *stomps little feet*
"No you!" *wipes little ass*
Originally posted by Robtard
Like people said, you contradicted yourself, don't cry at us about it.
Point out the contradiication, please. You have yet to do it.
Originally posted by Robtard
Now your contradiction was just an exaggeration?
Fail. Had you original line of thought been proper, this would have been an accurate insult representative of my posts. However, since it failed from the onset, your signature "conclusion insult" fails.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Nice attempt, but it fails. What I did was a straw man. I am right with what I said."No you!" *wipes little ass*
Point out the contradiication, please. You have yet to do it.
Fail. Had you original line of thought been proper, this would have been an accurate insult representative of my posts. However, since it failed from the onset, your signature "conclusion insult" fails.
You contradicted yourself yet again, first you claimed that Tyson would KO Ali, then you say he wouldn't. That's a contradiction.
Smoker already did, when he posted both quotes.
Sure, you contradicting yourself at ever turn and then trying to play it off as "hyperbole".
"Sure, call it splitting hairs, but it is more that you are just a ****ing moron that has no idea what he is talking about half the time." - bardock42
Correct.
Originally posted by dadudemonYes. Every bit of it. 😐
So your telling me, that you asserted that for Lee that speed would be such a crippling factor against Ali, but now that Ali's speed will now magically not be a factor in the fight...?
It would be a MASSIVE factor in the fight from Lee's perspective as Ali wouldn't be on the the end of many of Lee's shots..... but he would be battering Lee from an new, suddenly-shifted-to-angle and then if, he so, desired, nipping back out to safe distance and re-batter him again when he wishes, once Lee folds under the concussive weight of the first shots landed.
He'd be too elusive and too fast/heavy on the offensive/counter for Lee because of his speed.
Speed+weight+Distance equals pain.
And two out of three there, Ali has Bruce on, and the other he is virtually even on.
Originally posted by Robtard
You contradicted yourself yet again, first you claimed that Tyson would KO Ali, then you say he wouldn't. That's a contradiction.
You've got me, you idiot. Read it again.
Originally posted by Robtard
Sure, you contradicting yourself at ever turn and then trying to play it off as "hyperbole".
Sure, if you call contradicting myself using hyperbole by calling Ali "average"...you got meh. 😐
Originally posted by Robtard
"Sure, call it splitting hairs, but it is more that you are just a ****ing moron that has no idea what he is talking about half the time." - bardock42Correct.
You win....because you called him correct. 😐
Originally posted by Bardock42
The hypothetical one we were talking about the last few posts.
Which one? There's several.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Cause you are an idiot.
Well, this certainly wins this debate. What are we doing here?
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
So your telling me, that you asserted that for Lee that speed would be such a crippling factor against Ali, but now that Ali's speed will now magically not be a factor in the fight...?It would be a MASSIVE factor in the fight from Lee's perspective as Ali wouldn't be on the the end of many of Lee's shots..... but he would be battering Lee from an new, suddenly-shifted-to-angle and then if, he so, desired, nipping back out to safe distance and re-batter him again when he wishes, once Lee folds under the concussive weight of the first shots landed.
He'd be too elusive and too fast/heavy on the offensive/counter for Lee because of his speed.
Speed+weight+Distance equals pain.
And two out of three there, Ali has Bruce on, and the other he is virtually even on.
I believe that Lee's speed is better than Ali's. Not be huge amounts...okay..yes...but a significant margin because I already pointed out "evidence" that Lee's punches are 5 hundreths of a second and Ali's are a third of a second...furthering the point is that Lee has his arms down at his side when these measurement were taken and Ali had his arms up while boxing.
Yes. I believe that Lee would be much elusive and quick for Ali.
I also believe that it would probably only take one good connection from Ali to knock out Lee. This much is obvious because that's all it'd take for Lee on Ali.
Your example could be equally put in Lee's favor of the "battering...backup..battering".
Originally posted by dadudemon
Which one? There's several.
No.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Well, this certainly wins this debate. What are we doing here?
I am pointing out how Bruce Lee fanboys do not let rationality get in the way of their thoughts.
You are behaving like an idiot. But that's not really limited to "here".
Originally posted by Bardock42
No.
let me spell it out for you...
The argument about my idiocy....
the argument about me never saying Ali would get destroyed by Mike Tyson..
the argument about bruce lee being superior to Ali..
Originally posted by Bardock42
I am pointing out how Bruce Lee fanboys do not let rationality get in the way of their thoughts.You are behaving like an idiot. But that's not really limited to "here".
I am not behaving like an idiot. Check the polls.
Lemme guess, only the rational people voted for Ali?
Originally posted by dadudemon
I believe that Lee's speed is better than Ali's. Not be huge amounts...okay..yes...but a significant margin because I already pointed out "evidence" that Lee's punches are 5 hundreths of a second and Ali's are a third of a second...furthering the point is that Lee has his arms down at his side when these measurement were taken and Ali had his arms up while boxing.Yes. I believe that Lee would be much elusive and quick for Ali.
I also believe that it would probably only take one good connection from Ali to knock out Lee. This much is obvious because that's all it'd take for Lee on Ali.
Your example could be equally put in Lee's favor of the "battering...backup..battering".
LOL You saw the Foreman fight yes..? Ali could take what Lee had longer than Lee could take what Ali could give out.
And how would Lee get near this so easily as to knock him out....?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4MRkObcyr0
If Lee is the favorite for fist powered Knockout in this, then my arsehole is the next face of fashion vogue.
Originally posted by dadudemon
let me spell it out for you...The argument about my idiocy....
the argument about me never saying Ali would get destroyed by Mike Tyson..
the argument about bruce lee being superior to Ali..
You are an idiot.
It was about the hypothetical point that could either be changed or not changed by insulting a person. Oddly enough the topic of our conversation for 5+ posts. Please tell me you are just playing the moron for shits and giggles, you can't be real.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I am not behaving like an idiot. Check the polls.Lemme guess, only the rational people voted for Ali?
Originally posted by dadudemon
Lemme guess, only the rational people voted for Ali?
At least 90% of those people know nothing about Bruce lee other then the legands and his movies. That is a fact. So I'd say around 90% of the votes in that poll in Lee's favor are made by ignorant people, and don't hold much water.
That wasn't your point... but I'm just saying.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Anyhow Dadudemon, you ignored my challenge which was on topic, yet decided to do an Ad hominem attack on me for my assessment of Tyson/Ali.
So care to get back on topic an engage the question which was on topic?
Here is is, since you can't be bothered to go back.
Originally posted by Robtard
Allthe Lee-people have nothing but Ad Ignorantiam arguments.We now for a fact what Ali's capabilities are/were, as they're recorded and factually verifiable.So, can someone post a Lee fact that compares/counters a Ali statistic?
EG, Ali KO'd 37 well trained fighter weighing in the 200+ range. <--- Top that with a Lee fact.