Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Smurfs, judging by that hair.Smurfs and satanic fury.
For that is what he unleashed (very slowly unlike Ali) one cement sack punch at a time(unlike Ali) upon that more vertically challenged "opponent" of his..
The Thai is a Lumpini Champion and therefore hard as nails with proven skills Lee could not match he is also 5ft 11", Choi is a freak. Ali would knock either of them out.
Originally posted by StyleTime
Yes, you didn't mention all of the absurd feats. I commend you on that; however, mentioning the slightly less outlandish feats doesn't make them true. A 135 lbs man would be laughed out of a gym if he claimed he could hold 70-125 lbs dumbells straight out in front of him. That is something he'd have to prove.
It was not dumbbells.
It was a 70lbs total with a straight bar. I assume straight bar...but it could be an EZ bar. But it was not dumbbells because the word used is just "bar".
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
YouTube videoLenny McLean showing us how its done...
Boxing as street fighting against multiple opponents, Yeah it's real!
Originally posted by dadudemon
It was not dumbbells.It was a 70lbs total with a straight bar. I assume straight bar...but it could be an EZ bar. But it was not dumbbells because the word used is just "bar".
Well Ali weighs a lot more than that, moves at almost unreal speed for his size and punches back. I think the bar is a moot point.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Good thing you're wrong and his primary MMA experience is more real world than the rule-system used in the UFC.🙂
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If I am wrong, then please post verifiable proof of Lee's real-world MMA (or otherwise) fighting skills against an actual opponent with a proven record. What is Lee's record? Who has he defeated? What where his opponents fight records? Go!
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When these match-ups are discussed I always go back to something I think Jet Li said about how he'd lose against MMA fighters in a real contest (I couldn't find the quote but it's well known over the net). Now I know Jet Li and Bruce Lee aren't the same but if you factor in that they are similar and that Ali would be a better striker than a MMA fighter I think its a pretty obvious outcome.
Here's a quote from Chuck Liddell:
“You just have to realize that Jet Li is a movie star. He’s great at what he does, but if he stepped into our world, he wouldn’t last long.” - Chuck Liddell
http://www.mmawild.com/ufc/quotes/
Now Chuck is mainly a striker right? So if he can be confident about taking down a highly skilled and flashy fighter like Li then Ali should be able to do the same to Lee. They are both professional fighters who have height, weight advantage and real fighting experience, against... actors who are made to look impressive on screen.
Even this guy says he would 'crush' Jackie Chan, 'murder' Jet Li (gets enigmatic about Bruce Lee though).
http://www.headkicklegend.com/2010/7/12/1565257/exclusive-interview-with-chinese
The illusion of television makes them stronger, faster and better than they are in reality, pro fighters are trained to hurt and trained to take damage and fight through it. You have to ask could Bruce Lee absorb the punishment Ali did against Frazier in Manila and come out on top? I don't think so myself.
Now, if we were talking about Gordon Liu... 😄
Originally posted by Robtard
If I am wrong, then please post verifiable proof of Lee's real-world MMA (or otherwise) fighting skills against an actual opponent with a proven record. What is Lee's record? Who has he defeated? What where his opponents fight records? Go!🙂 🙂 😉
How many actual fights (not rule-based watered down fights) has Ali been in?
Oh.
Right.
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We already know how he does against someone using mixed martial arts...and that was gimping the Japanese dude, too. Too bad. It was a good run for the Ali blindboys.
Originally posted by dadudemon
How many actual fights (not rule-based watered down fights) has Ali been in?Oh.
Right.
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We already know how he does against someone using mixed martial arts...and that was gimping the Japanese dude, too. Too bad. It was a good run for the Ali blindboys.
So a dodge of my question? Oh. Right. Lol.
To answer yours though: I have no idea. How many "actual fights (not rule-based watered down fights) has" Bruce Lee been in?
How many hits has Bruce Lee taking in the "watered down" fight from fighters who can knock-a-fool-out? How many rounds of punishment in a "watered-down" fight has Bruce Lee gone?
We already know Ali can take kicks from a much larger Martica-artist who actually has a fight record and not be taken out. It wasn't a good run for the Lee fanboys 🙁.
Originally posted by Robtard
So a dodge of my question? Oh. Right. Lol.
Not only was my answer not a dodge, the question itself is dodgey. Nice try.
Originally posted by Robtard
To answer yours though: I have no idea. How "actual fights (not rule-based watered down fights) has" Bruce Lee been in?
Lots. He was a punk.
Originally posted by Robtard
How many hits has Bruce Lee taking in the "watered down" ring from fighters who can knock-a-fool-out? How many rounds of punishment in a "watered-down" fight has Bruce Lee gone?
Here's the fallacy with your question: Lee is not an idiot in his street fights. He ended them all quite quickly. The longest account of a fight (a real fight) was one that lasted 3 minutes against the douche challenger that got mad at him teaching non-asians MA.
Originally posted by Robtard
We already know Ali can take kicks from a much larger Martica-artist who actually has a fight record and not be taken out.
We already know that Ali can't take kicks and runs like a b*tch when a few slow kicks from a Martial Artist that is not trained to throw kicks, is constantly beating on his legs. Fact: Lee can go from foot on the ground to foot on the face faster than Ali can throw a jab. Let's not bring back up the fact that Lee can go from his hands completely down at his sides to a punch in front of him at about 3 times faster than Ali's fastest punches.
Nice try. But it looks like you've traveled down the path of dishonesty. Typical for a blindboy to do when their favorite has been soundly defeated.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Not only was my answer not a dodge, the question itself is dodgey. Nice try.Lots. He was a punk.
Here's the fallacy with your question: Lee is not an idiot in his street fights. He ended them all quite quickly. The longest account of a fight (a real fight) was one that lasted 3 minutes against the douche challenger that got mad at him teaching non-asians MA.
We already know that Ali can't take kicks and runs like a b*tch when a few slow kicks from a Martial Artist that is not trained to throw kicks, is constantly beating on his legs. Fact: Lee can go from foot on the ground to foot on the face faster than Ali can throw a jab. Let's not bring back up the fact that Lee can go from his hands completely down at his sides to a punch in front of him at about 3 times faster than Ali's fastest punches.
Nice try. But it looks like you've traveled down the path of dishonesty. Typical for a blindboy to do when their favorite has been soundly defeated.
Asking for proof of Lee's supposed fighting capabilities against opponents is a dodgy question when we're discussing a hypothetical match? LoL. I accept that you must dodge this question.
About how many is "lots"? Who did he fight? Were their any notable opponents? What were their fight records? Cos I've punched a fool on the street before, doesn't mean I can kick Lee's ass cos of it.
Proof that he ended these supposed fights quickly? That particular fight is in question. Lee and his wife said it ended quickly, the douche gave a different account of it lasting unusually long. Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story, that was a decent film though.
Yeah, out of shape Ali can take a kick and not buckle, got it.
Proof that Lee can do this "go from foot on the ground to foot on the face faster than Ali can throw a jab" against an opponent that isn't a body-bag or some dude standing still during a demonstration.
Dishonesty? Says the dodging evader. Classic.
Originally posted by dadudemon
We already know that Ali can't take kicks and runs like a b*tch when a few slow kicks from a Martial Artist that is not trained to throw kicks, is constantly beating on his legs. Fact: Lee can go from foot on the ground to foot on the face faster than Ali can throw a jab. Let's not bring back up the fact that Lee can go from his hands completely down at his sides to a punch in front of him at about 3 times faster than Ali's fastest punches.
Firstly the Antonio Inoki fight was an exhibition that was off the cuff and had no fixed rules - and Ali was wearing gloves. Secondly have you seen a picture of Inoki? He could have eaten Bruce Lee. Inoki was a heavyweight and that's probably why his grappling and kicks hurt and were effective. I also must have missed Lee's world class grappling game somewhere, that can deal with a heavyweight that's punching him in the face.
Not to mention you are bringing up a version of Ali here which is very selective considering he had only Norton and Shavers left as major fights in this time period. Bruce's punches? Oh dear the horror. Never mind the sledgehammer punches from Liston, Frazier, Norton and Foreman (one of which broke his jaw mid-fight and he carried on), but Bruce's lightning fast jabs would knock him down stone cold.
What happens when peak Ali swells up Bruce's eyes with his lightning fast angles and combinations? Or is this movie land where Bruce will get blue smudges of make-up under his eyes?