Euro-constitution

Originally posted by Bardock42
Sure because everything that happens in your country is for your best ✅ (note the sarcasm).

Especially for Poland the EU will makes things much better not worse.

yeah...better for economic weaklings like poland and latvia...who will be subsidising these countries?...Britain...which is now officially the most expensive country in the world to live?...Britain...which country works on average the longest hours in the EU?...Britain...which coutry has the highest overall taxation in the EU?...Britain...

so no...i dont want to subsidise the lazy bastard spanish who think its acceptable to have a 4 hour lunch break every day because "it gets to hot to work"....get some air conditioning you lazy bassas

Good for you, but some people are more idealistic. They want to work for a brighter future, they subsidise countries if they need it (to be honest they do that because they will get more out of it in the long run). GB is just to ignorant to see that at the moment, they only think aboot their current situation, well thats ok, but IK can'T see how anyone from poland can be against the EU.

Originally posted by Bardock42
but IK can'T see how anyone from poland can be against the EU.

Originally posted by Clovie
look better 😬

Well hmm the best source available to me is someone from poland (you if you are not getting it). Tell me then, why are you against it?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well hmm the best source available to me is someone from poland (you if you are not getting it). Tell me then, why are you against it?

Originally posted by Clovie
coz we are not ready.

Could you specify that?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Could you specify that?

Originally posted by Clovie
after 40 years of living in the communist country, ppl are not able to take advantage of being in the EU 😬

Well, its still a chance you might not get again. Poland is not supposed to suck the EU dry or anything, they should just move wwith it so everyone can live better

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, its still a chance you might not get again. Poland is not supposed to suck the EU dry or anything, they should just move wwith it so everyone can live better

Originally posted by Clovie
EXACTLY.
as i said: we are no ready for it.

Well you are asuming you would get a second chance, and the EU will take care of themselves they will give Poland what it needs.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well you are asuming you would get a second chance, and the EU will take care of themselves they will give Poland what it needs.

Originally posted by Clovie
no. cry

Well then, they will give poland more than they have gotten before

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well then, they will give poland more than they have gotten before

Originally posted by Bardock42
Good for you, but some people are more idealistic. They want to work for a brighter future, they subsidise countries if they need it (to be honest they do that because they will get more out of it in the long run). GB is just to ignorant to see that at the moment, they only think aboot their current situation, well thats ok, but IK can'T see how anyone from poland can be against the EU.

actually i thinkj you'll find that it is those subsidies that are destroying the poor countries of Europe who are not being subsidised

take Albania and Greece for instance...Greece gets vastly more in subsidies than Albania does from the common agricultural policy of the EU...this means that Greek producers can sell their product for 60% less than the Albanians need just to cover costs...thus crushing the Albanian economy

its also kind of a bizzare situation that Europes third biggest economy...France...recieves the most subsidies from the CAP...so how is that benefiting the poorer countries?

not to mention that the CAP pretty much destroys any chance of external markets getting a chance to thrive in Europe...and hence many growers in Africa have no market in which to sell their product...thus perpetuating the largest poverty problem in the world

Originally posted by jaden101
actually i thinkj you'll find that it is those subsidies that are destroying the poor countries of Europe who are not being subsidised

take Albania and Greece for instance...Greece gets vastly more in subsidies than Albania does from the common agricultural policy of the EU...this means that Greek producers can sell their product for 60% less than the Albanians need just to cover costs...thus crushing the Albanian economy

its also kind of a bizzare situation that Europes third biggest economy...France...recieves the most subsidies from the CAP...so how is that benefiting the poorer countries?

not to mention that the CAP pretty much destroys any chance of external markets getting a chance to thrive in Europe...and hence many growers in Africa have no market in which to sell their product...thus perpetuating the largest poverty problem in the world

Well thats just giving them to much, they shoudl get money to get their stuff going, not be subsidiesed to oblivion. The thing is, we need to think of Europe as a country and then make decisions.

Originally posted by Bardock42
The thing is, we need to think of Europe as a country and then make decisions.

the just the problem...the majority of people in Europe dont want to think of it as a country...

the perfect example of how the EU works on this subject are the way in which the constitution is ratified

some countries get a refurendum...and others dont...where is the fairness in that?

France even get a refurendum and said "non" to the constitution...and now their government are trying to press ahead with the ratification of the constitution anyway...where is the democracy in that?

Well pure democracy doesn't work, thats why people invented represantative deomocracy....

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well pure democracy doesn't work, thats why people invented represantative deomocracy....

i understand that...but how is it representative of the people of France when they voted in the majority against the constitution...then try and plough ahead with it anyway

Originally posted by jaden101
i understand that...but how is it representative of the people of France when they voted in the majority against the constitution...then try and plough ahead with it anyway

It represents there needs and what they want suconciously , not what they at the moment think they want. Most of them don't even know anything aboot the constitution.

😂 thats just total nonsense and you know it...

its the polititians job to explain things to the people who will decide...

you cant ask your people and when they decide they dont like what you want then go and do it anyway

thats like a ruling party losing an election and then saying..."ach...we dont care..we're staying in power anyway"

thats called a dictatorship...not a democracy