cannonball (adult version) vs superman

Started by derrick2418 pages
derrick24 Restricted
Originally posted by Blair Wind
isnt freezing the opposite of kinetic movement so it would just freeze the molecules CB has until he cant raise the temp anymore, and all supes has to do is keep breathing......I dont think Swanky is the ONLY one that thinks Supes would win

why was cannonball just standing there while ice man was freezing his force field. 😉

Swanky-Tuna Post-Crisis Balki

Originally posted by FieryBalrog
the thing is, this is assuming unrealistic knowledge on the part of Superman. How is he going to know how CBs field works? And the specific counter? And dont tell me hes just gonna figure it out...

Like that time someone said Storm would figure out Cap. Planets weakness was pollution because he had "planet" in his name.... 😆


I'm not saying he's going to use the ice breath because he knows how the field works. I'm saying he'll use it because it's apparently the only thing that will work.

Think of it from Superman's point of view
Punch = ouch
Heat Vision = makes him hit harder/shot it back at me
Spin = made me puke
Ice Breath = We'll see.

Originally posted by derrick24
i have proven to you swanky that cannonball can and will absorb anything superman throws at him and he can do it easily. Please stop arguing about this.

You obviously don't know how cold works. If punching and heat vision is like pouring more hot coffee into a pot of hot coffee, ice breath would be like putting the pot of coffee into a cooler of ice. That' coffee's gonna get cold.
Originally posted by derrick24
why was cannonball just standing there while ice man was freezing his force field. 😉

Why do MMA fighters pull their punches when they train with sparring partners?

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by derrick24
why was cannonball just standing there while ice man was freezing his force field. 😉
You still don't grasp the concept that iceman's attack was directed AROUND cannonball, while Icebreath would be directed directly onto CB.

derrick24 Restricted
Originally posted by Creshosk
Even with the definition of kinetic energy you still fail to understand it properly. Ice breath would be removing kinetic energy from him, not transfering it to him.

how can you remove motion; thats what kinetic energy is "motion" and his ice breath isnt nothing but motion. You dont know the definition of kinetic energy.

K3VIL Neutral Force

Originally posted by derrick24
gladiator have moved planets and lifted the baxter building and destroyed a planet in 3 punches. what does all of that mean when your punching are throwing someone that can absorb it, nothing.

Parasite and cannonball are totally different; parasite absorbs your powers and use it for his own, cannonball absorbs your kinetic energy and it powers him up and he releases the same amount of force you used against him. Lets put it like this, he can absorb heat vision, ice breath, and punches, and enjoy every moment of it.


Parasite absorb energy not powers.
He drain energy from other beings.
You hit him with a sonic blast?He absorb it.He touch you?He absorb your life force.He's not Rogue.

FieryBalrog child of the sun
Originally posted by derrick24
how can you remove motion; thats what kinetic energy is "motion" and his ice breath isnt nothing but motion. You dont know the definition of kinetic energy.

uh, I hate to break this to you, but cold = removing kinetic energy from molecules. Thats kind of what cold... is.

I dont think its a power that belongs anywhere near Superman, but he has it. so.... I still think CB might win just cuz Superman isn't going to use his ice breath much.

CorderaMitchell Zitz! Rash! Pimple!

Like I said Supes has too many ooptions a handicap perhaps.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by derrick24
how can you remove motion; thats what kinetic energy is "motion" and his ice breath isnt nothing but motion. You dont know the definition of kinetic energy.
Ice and cold REMOVE heat(movement of atoms/molecules).

No that's what's funny, YOU still don't underastand what it is.

Kinetic energy = movement
Heat = Molecular movement
Cold = Lack of molecular movement.

derrick24 Restricted

Originally posted by FieryBalrog
uh, I hate to break this to you, but cold = removing kinetic energy from molecules. Thats kind of what cold... is.

I dont think its a power that belongs anywhere near Superman, but he has it. so.... I still think CB might win just cuz Superman isn't going to use his ice breath much.

glad you corrected me. but still how could you take away a force field by using cold and he can increase the temperature of his force field. And another thing why would he stand there all day while superman is blowing cold on him, from my knowledge if someone is blowing anything on me that is cold and i have cannonball powers i will melt the first attempt then i will charge my opponent.

CorderaMitchell Zitz! Rash! Pimple!

Just layin it on him eh?

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by derrick24
glad you corrected me. but still how could you take away a force field by using cold and he can increase the temperature of his force field. And another thing why would he stand there all day while superman is blowing cold on him, from my knowledge if someone is blowing anything on me that is cold and i have cannonball powers i will melt the first attempt then i will charge my opponent.
The cold attack might put a strain on CB. Mental stress from reenforceing the kinetic energy that the cold removed.

Swanky-Tuna Post-Crisis Balki

Originally posted by derrick24
glad you corrected me. but still how could you take away a force field by using cold and he can increase the temperature of his force field.

He's gotta run out of energy sometime.
And another thing why would he stand there all day while superman is blowing cold on him, from my knowledge if someone is blowing anything on me that is cold and i have cannonball powers i will melt the first attempt then i will charge my opponent.

So Superman guards until Cannonball is exhausted? Win for Superman.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Just layin it on him eh?

I think it's more like this is the thread with the fastest pace at the moment and we all just keep repeating the same thing.

CorderaMitchell Zitz! Rash! Pimple!

It wouldn't defeat him instantly however it would put a brake on some of his momentum.

FieryBalrog child of the sun

Hopefully CB will fight Iceman again and it will resolve that issue.

The one time I thought Icemans ice thingy didnt do anything to him. So who knows if this trick works anyway.

derrick24 Restricted

im looking over the internet now to see is cold the removal of kinetic energy.

CorderaMitchell Zitz! Rash! Pimple!

Just a logic theory, which has been debated time and time again whether it plays a large role in comics or not.

derrick24 Restricted

this is the definition that i found about cold and kinetic energy.

This motion is a form of kinetic energy. Things that moves and have mass have kinetic energy. Air molecules move and have mass, so they have kinetic energy. Air temperature is essentially a measure of kinetic energy.The faster the molecules move, the higher their kinetic energy and therefore the higher their temperature. The slower they move, the lower their kinetic energy and temperature. If they stop moving altogether, the temperature drops to Absolute Zero which is -273 degrees Centigrade. It's called Absolute Zero because that is the coldest you can get. You can't move slower than not moving at all.

Now if superman ice breath goes down to absolute zero which im thinking that it cannot than it will have an effect on him but if not he can absorb a little from the cold that superman produces.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by derrick24
this is the definition that i found about cold and kinetic energy.

This motion is a form of kinetic energy. Things that moves and have mass have kinetic energy. Air molecules move and have mass, so they have kinetic energy. Air temperature is essentially a measure of kinetic energy.The faster the molecules move, the higher their kinetic energy and therefore the higher their temperature. The slower they move, the lower their kinetic energy and temperature. If they stop moving altogether, the temperature drops to Absolute Zero which is -273 degrees Centigrade. It's called Absolute Zero because that is the coldest you can get. You can't move slower than not moving at all.

Now if superman ice breath goes down to absolute zero which im thinking that it cannot than it will have an effect on him but if not he can absorb a little from the cold that superman produces.

MAking something colder removes heat, it doesn't have to be alot, but the cold is absorbing HIS kinetic energy.

It doesn't NEED to be absolute zero.

Swanky-Tuna Post-Crisis Balki

Originally posted by derrick24
Now if superman ice breath goes down to absolute zero which im thinking that it cannot than it will have an effect on him but if not he can absorb a little from the cold that superman produces.

If your power includes absorbing kinetic energy and you "absorb" negative energy (cold) you are releasing energy to warm the cold.

For every degree Superman lowers it, Cannonball will have to raise on his own power.

derrick24 Restricted

what you all dont get is that if superman is shooting cold at him, so what ok he cant absorb it but that dont have anything to do with cannonball power. Before the kinetic energy thing even came to pass, cannonball was known for being invulnerable, not about kinetic energy. Superman shooting ice at cannonball is only stopping him from absorbing the impact, its not taking away from his force field because its not made of kinetic energy.

Superman ice breath isnt working, hate to tell you that. Without the kinetic powers cannonball is still invulnerable, he just wont be able to absorb the ice breath.