cannonball (adult version) vs superman

Originally posted by K3VIL
The facts are:
Cannonbal with his base strenght and kinetic force blasts can't hurt Superman.
Superman will only power up him by using a slugfest tactic.
But the grab him and throw him into outerspace could work.
There are plenty examples of flying strong guys throwed at escape velocity in outerspace from strong enemies, from Superman to Thor, so Cannonball is not immune to this trick.
Cannonball can control his flight, but if the Fury can slow down him to the point that Sam is tired and drop on the ground with his field shutted down, Superman can do this.
Heat Vision, Speedblites with flurry of punches, Freezing Breath, all this in sequence for 10 minutes, is too much for Cannonball, he'll get tired like with the Fury, or at last being disoriented sufficiently for Supes catching him and throwing him in the Space/Sun.
How can you exted your force field or explode when you can't even see your enemy moving cause he exceed your perceptions?

Also, The Fury is not above Doomsday.
This JLA Roster:
Superman
Martian Manhunter
Wonder Woman
GL
Batman
Flash
Aquaman
Steel
Superboy

will take care of him if in a few.

cannonball can just stand there and let superman use all of his statics and not move a muscle if he wants to. Again i have to tell you this, fury hurt cannonball because cannonball is weak to magic and fury is a magic base being. i want you to go here and read up on fury because you know nothing of him.
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/fury1.htm
i want you to go here and see cannonball withstand a punch from superman superior and not move a muscle and then say is that all you got, that punch alone was said that it was going to send cannonball flying thru the middle of the sun.
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=80&page=5

Your not smart if you think superman can beat cannonball. Your acting like a superman fan but youre still cool with me though. i cant say nothing about you because i take up for wolverine also.

your right i might would take superman powers to, even though i might get killed again. But i think sam could withstand doomsday punches if he wanted to because doomsday isnt nothing but brute strength and that would be a major power up for cannonball.

Originally posted by derrick24
cannonball can just stand there and let superman use all of his statics and not move a muscle if he wants to. Again i have to tell you this, fury hurt cannonball because cannonball is weak to magic and fury is a magic base being. i want you to go here and read up on fury because you know nothing of him.
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/fury1.htm
i want you to go here and see cannonball withstand a punch from superman superior and not move a muscle and then say is that all you got, that punch alone was said that it was going to send cannonball flying thru the middle of the sun.
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=80&page=5

Your not smart if you think superman can beat cannonball. Your acting like a superman fan but youre still cool with me though. i cant say nothing about you because i take up for wolverine also.

The Fury alone showed Class 100 Strenght, throwed Rachel Summers letting her performing a transoceanic fly.
But the Fury is still a machine.Did it ever met a being with magnitude of power like that of Supes?
I mean, for the first minutes of fight, Superman may be able to subdue him, and it would be all it takes for perform a lightspeed attack reaching the Sun, and this will end the fight obviously.
If on the other hand, Superman don't carpe diem, Fury may adapt to him and Supes would need the JLA roster I mentioned before to contain and beat him.

the canonball that took that blow from gladiator was only a teenager, imagine what the adult could do, who has control over his powers. Superman is owned in this fight no matter how you put it. Superman dont have nothing that can even come close to hurting cannonball.

Originally posted by derrick24
Your not getting my point, my point is that superman isnt invulnerable, he can just take a lot of punishment. When have you seen juggernaut, get a hole cut in his chest, when have you seen juggernaut jaw become broken, when have you seen juggernaut bleed out of the mouth and nose, never, because he invulnerable (not the current juggernaut).

when have you even see gladiator bleed out of the mouth or the nose, when have you even see gladiator bleed. When have anything on gladiator ever been broken.

No lets not even use them, lets use cannonball, if you have read anything on cannonball, when have you ever see him bleed from anywhere, when in flight. The only time harm ever came to cannonball was by fury and the reason why that happened was because he was magic base, my bad spiral also hurt him thru his forcefield because she shot him with a magical beam, that she stated she brought for him.

The results are always different. Where was the broken jaw when Colossus almost died to Pyro and Avalanche?

Where was the black eye when Thanos took Surfer out in one shot?

Where would the bloody nose be if said Surfer exploited Gladiator's weakness?

The fact is Superman has probably been in more comics than Gladiator, Juggernaut, and Cannonball combined and will get black eyes or broken jaws but that in no way means the feat can be duplicated by any means by any person.

Originally posted by DrDoom
Yeah, Swank. 4. You heard me.

Lol I'm just messing with ya, I'm saying it's like you punching yourself in the face a couple of times full-force--you'd either be KO or really hurtin'

Ok for Supes he'd be throwing about 50 punches--but it would look like 4 to Sam. That better?

Originally posted by derrick24
the canonball that took that blow from gladiator was only a teenager, imagine what the adult could do, who has control over his powers. Superman is owned in this fight no matter how you put it. Superman dont have nothing that can even come close to hurting cannonball.

lets put it like this fury met and almost killed 2 supermans, captain brittain , i would like to show you a bio of his powers. Hes not different from superman and he killed captain brittain with one blast.

Real Name: Brian Braddock
Universe/Timeline: Marvel Universe
Current Status: ruler of Otherworld
Aliases: Captain Britain 616, Britanic, Black Bishop II, Jungle Man, Captain Wakanda, Tweedledope
Nationality: British
First Appearance: Captain Britain (1st series) #1
Powers and Abilities:
superhuman strength, speed, endurance, reflexes, and invulnerability, flight, ethereal energy-channeling costume generates energy in the form of a force field for additional protection or released as a strike of physical energy

Captain Britain is not a moon moving guy that can achieve 2% of lightspeed and can take nuclear blasts at point blank.
Comparing him to Supes in this version is like Comparing Rogue to Wonder Woman.
The only version of CB which is a real powerhouse is the one with Excalibur and that can drain energies from Otherworld for infinite purposes.

I don't know how cannonball will get the offensive, but i do know he can take hits well enough.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
You're using quite the double standard there. Every character has his weakness and limits and you're using all examples of Superman's weaknesses being exploited and limits being surpassed in ways Cannonball can't duplicate.

The results are always different. Where was the broken jaw when Colossus almost died to Pyro and Avalanche?

Where was the black eye when Thanos took Surfer out in one shot?

Where would the bloody nose be if said Surfer exploited Gladiator's weakness?

The fact is Superman has probably been in more comics than Gladiator, Juggernaut, and Cannonball combined and will get black eyes or broken jaws but that in no way means the feat can be duplicated by any means by any person.

If it was an instantaneous feedback like "iron maiden" or "thorns" in the Blizzard games, it'd only take 2 or 3 blows for Superman to realize what's happening.

Was it adult Cannonball that fought Fury? No matter. All you've come up with was ways Cannonball can stand there and get hit. How will he beat Superman?

i can give you a way that he can take out superman, he can absorb all of supermans attacks, pretending that he is being hurt by it and once he has enough strength, take superman out with one punch.

Or he could just rap superman up in a invulnerable force field, fly him to the ocean and let all the water in and see how long he last without air.

Or he could just put his hand in superman mouth and let it explode.

or he could humilate superman and laugh at his attacks, ending with superman flying off.

Originally posted by K3VIL
Captain Britain is not a moon moving guy that can achieve 2% of lightspeed and can take nuclear blasts at point blank.
Comparing him to Supes in this version is like Comparing Rogue to Wonder Woman.
The only version of CB which is a real powerhouse is the one with Excalibur and that can drain energies from Otherworld for infinite purposes.

did you read the bio, it said he is the ruler of other world and he can achieve light speed and he still died. Oh and by the way superman dont come close to going lightspeed i can understand the speed of sound. On the bio on dc web site it simply states that superman flies at a speed of 3000 mps and it takes minutes for him to get from earth to the moon. Thats not close to the speed of light.

Hey you gave it a try.

Superman >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cap Britain.

Oh, and derrick I think that the only plans you have that would work is the first one, and the second may have a very,veeeeeery, slim chance.

Originally posted by K3VIL
Captain Britain is not a moon moving guy that can achieve 2% of lightspeed and can take nuclear blasts at point blank.
Comparing him to Supes in this version is like Comparing Rogue to Wonder Woman.
The only version of CB which is a real powerhouse is the one with Excalibur and that can drain energies from Otherworld for infinite purposes.

when was the last time regular superman, not red and blue superman, moved the moon by himself. If he did may i have the name of the book and the # please. because to my knowledge wonder women was there and martian manhunter was there assisting him.

i was just playing about the explosion in the mouth.

[QUOTE=3995125]Originally posted by DrDoom
[B]Superman >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cap Britain.

🙂 💃

Originally posted by derrick24
lets put it like this fury met and almost killed 2 supermans, captain brittain

i would like to show you a bio of his powers. Hes not different from superman and he killed captain brittain with one blast.

Real Name: Brian Braddock
Universe/Timeline: Marvel Universe
Current Status: ruler of Otherworld
Aliases: Captain Britain 616, Britanic, Black Bishop II, Jungle Man, Captain Wakanda, Tweedledope
Nationality: British
First Appearance: Captain Britain (1st series) #1
Powers and Abilities:
superhuman strength, speed, endurance, reflexes, and invulnerability, flight, ethereal energy-channeling costume generates energy in the form of a force field for additional protection or released as a strike of physical energy

Originally posted by derrick24
i can give you a way that he can take out superman, he can absorb all of supermans attacks, pretending that he is being hurt by it and once he has enough strength, take superman out with one punch.

Or he could just rap superman up in a invulnerable force field, fly him to the ocean and let all the water in and see how long he last without air.

Or he could just put his hand in superman mouth and let it explode.

C'mon man, is this all you can come up with?

Originally posted by derrick24
did you read the bio, it said he is the ruler of other world and he can achieve light speed and he still died.

Oh and by the way superman dont come close to going lightspeed i can understand the speed of sound. On the bio on dc web site it simply states that superman flies at a speed of 3000 mps and it takes minutes for him to get from earth to the moon. Thats not close to the speed of light.

yes captain brittain has got a upgrade and this is another character that fury has fought that is way more powerful than superman;

MAD JIM JASPERS
Powers/Abilities: Able to change reality with a thought - virtually limitless ability. Even destroying the reality he was in would not have killed him.

Originally posted by derrick24
when was the last time regular superman, not red and blue superman, moved the moon by himself. If he did may i have the name of the book and the # please. because to my knowledge wonder women was there and martian manhunter was there assisting him.

this is where i got a listing of cannonballs powers

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=80

cannonball has a chance yet.