cannonball (adult version) vs superman

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Yeah, he changed it in mid-topic to stack them up against Superman. Instead of agreeing that Superman's unreasonably powerful he's trying to bring him down a few notches.

I can name one x-man that couldn't do anything to Gladiator in spite of Gladiator possibly not being able to do anything to the x-man.
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Trying to blow up or drown your opponent isn't very x-man-ish. Plus the blast would only do that. Stun him. At the most.

swanky i didnt do that to make superman not look worthy; superman is a very powerful opponent for anybody, how can i not make him look worthy. I said that to prove that fury is a unstoppable foe that nobodies powers could work on.

blowing up a person are drowning a person isnt very xman but do you think tossing someone in space or flying someone to the sun is supermanish, no but people still brought it up.

Anybody can take Apocalypse. He's a cool character and all but he sucks at everything.

youre right on that part.

well he can beat the avengers, is that better and by the way, whats up swanky the person who always disagree with me.

can you please tell me a way superman could beat cannonball.

Originally posted by derrick24
well he can beat the avengers, is that better and by the way, whats up swanky the person who always disagree with me.

And I always disagree with you because you're so biased and skew stats so much that it's a laugh riot debating you. It's like I'm Bill Cosby and you're a child on Kids Say the Darnedest Things.

Originally posted by derrick24
can you please tell me a way superman could beat cannonball.

oh and by the way this is the power of the fury that someone tried to use in a argument against cannonball:

Powers and Abilities:
cybiote with considerable strength, speed, and reflexes, inexhaustible endurance, near-invincibility thanks to a natural imperviousness to harm, recuperative powers, and the ability to absorb organic or inorganic matter into its system, tracking senses that work across dimensions, devastating energy blasts, cross-dimensional travel, capable of analyzing situations or individuals to implement changes on its body to neutralize or counteract any effect, and devise the ideal weapon systems to destroy any foe

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
When did he beat the avengers?

And I always disagree with you because you're so biased and skew stats so much that it's a laugh riot debating you. It's like I'm Bill Cosby and you're a child on Kids Say the Darnedest Things.

Maybe you should read your own thread...

I didnt say that he beat the avengers, i said that he can beat the avengers and i said that he can beat apocalypse. But he never fought any of them. My bad for the confusion.

Originally posted by derrick24
I didnt say that he beat the avengers, i said that he can beat the avengers and i said that he can beat apocalypse. But he never fought any of them. My bad for the confusion.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Cannonball can beat the Avengers? No way. Not unless it's the crappy new one with Wolverine and Ghost... Rider... wait, is that the new Fanastic Four? Or... wait, yeah, the new Avengers is pretty lowbie power-wise except for Ironman.

nooo youre correct cannonball cannot beat the avengers, i was telling you fury could, that bio i gave you was for fury powers.

The adult Cannonball has mastered the use of his powers, he's an expert aerial combatant, and as showed during his fight with the Fury, the deus ex robot unleashed against the X-Men, he take anything from him, the Fury itself stated that superstrenght, superspeed, sonic blasts, plasma beams, meson cutters, neutronium bombs, nothing can actually damage the subject, but the Fury keep fightning him.
But during the fight, Cannonball was getting tired, he wasn't flying at his top speed, actually it was to put the Fury into a trap, cause Bishop soon arrived throwing a propane container at the Fury and blasting it with an energy bolt, but Cannonball got a leg injured during the fight, and anyway it was requiring from his body a great amount of energy to keep fighting this unstoppable enemy.Consider that the Fury with a single blow throwed Rachel Summers with a portion of Phoenix Power, that all the X-Fanboy on this board sayed to be hella powerful and strong in the sea near Ireland, from the U.S.A. to Ireland.
Superman is stronger than the Fury, faster, tougher, has great energy reserves, fightning experience, he's an expert aerial combatant.
If the Fury can speedblitz Cannonball, Kal El certainly can, and that will mean Cannonball is going down.

Originally posted by derrick24
nooo youre correct cannonball cannot beat the avengers, i was telling you fury could, that bio i gave you was for fury powers.

Originally posted by K3VIL
The adult Cannonball has mastered the use of his powers, he's an expert aerial combatant, and as showed during his fight with the Fury, the deus ex robot unleashed against the X-Men, he take anything from him, the Fury itself stated that superstrenght, superspeed, sonic blasts, plasma beams, meson cutters, neutronium bombs, nothing can actually damage the subject, but the Fury keep fightning him.
But during the fight, Cannonball was getting tired, he wasn't flying at his top speed, actually it was to put the Fury into a trap, cause Bishop soon arrived throwing a propane container at the Fury and blasting it with an energy bolt, but Cannonball got a leg injured during the fight, and anyway it was requiring from his body a great amount of energy to keep fighting this unstoppable enemy.Consider that the Fury with a single blow throwed Rachel Summers with a portion of Phoenix Power, that all the X-Fanboy on this board sayed to be hella powerful and strong in the sea near Ireland, from the U.S.A. to Ireland.
Superman is stronger than the Fury, faster, tougher, has great energy reserves, fightning experience, he's an expert aerial combatant.
If the Fury can speedblitz Cannonball, Kal El certainly can, and that will mean Cannonball is going down.

k3vil dont take this personal because you did post a good argument except, you know nothing of fury. Fury will kill superman, not beat him but kill him. Fury is a magical being that noone powers can work on. The reason why cannonball was losing power was because fury is a magic base character and that is cannonball weakness, he got thru his forcefield because he is a magic based being.

Fury will kill doomsday, superman, and any other being that tries to fight it, im going to post another bio of fury for you so that you would know that superman has no chance.

Powers and Abilities:
cybiote with considerable strength, speed, and reflexes, inexhaustible endurance, near-invincibility thanks to a natural imperviousness to harm, recuperative powers, and the ability to absorb organic or inorganic matter into its system, tracking senses that work across dimensions, devastating energy blasts, cross-dimensional travel, capable of analyzing situations or individuals to implement changes on its body to neutralize or counteract any effect, and devise the ideal weapon systems to destroy any foe

Do you see where it says create a weopon that can destroy any foe, superman dies and fast because he dont have a force field to protect him like cannonballs does. Superman has a tiny force field but it dont work as good as it use to.

Originally posted by derrick24
Powers and Abilities:
cybiote with considerable strength, speed, and reflexes, inexhaustible endurance, near-invincibility thanks to a natural imperviousness to harm, recuperative powers, and the ability to absorb organic or inorganic matter into its system, tracking senses that work across dimensions, devastating energy blasts, cross-dimensional travel, capable of analyzing situations or individuals to implement changes on its body to neutralize or counteract any effect, and devise the ideal weapon systems to destroy any foe

Do you see where it says create a weopon that can destroy any foe, superman dies and fast because he dont have a force field to protect him like cannonballs does. Superman has a tiny force field but it dont work as good as it use to.

Originally posted by K3VIL
The adult Cannonball has mastered the use of his powers, he's an expert aerial combatant, and as showed during his fight with the Fury, the deus ex robot unleashed against the X-Men, he take anything from him, the Fury itself stated that superstrenght, superspeed, sonic blasts, plasma beams, meson cutters, neutronium bombs, nothing can actually damage the subject, but the Fury keep fightning him.
But during the fight, Cannonball was getting tired, he wasn't flying at his top speed, actually it was to put the Fury into a trap, cause Bishop soon arrived throwing a propane container at the Fury and blasting it with an energy bolt, but Cannonball got a leg injured during the fight, and anyway it was requiring from his body a great amount of energy to keep fighting this unstoppable enemy.Consider that the Fury with a single blow throwed Rachel Summers with a portion of Phoenix Power, that all the X-Fanboy on this board sayed to be hella powerful and strong in the sea near Ireland, from the U.S.A. to Ireland.
Superman is stronger than the Fury, faster, tougher, has great energy reserves, fightning experience, he's an expert aerial combatant.
If the Fury can speedblitz Cannonball, Kal El certainly can, and that will mean Cannonball is going down.

k3vil you must like superman a lot, you actually think superman is stronger and faster, tougher, has more power, and has better fighting style than fury. You love superman a lot. To be honest i think fury and destroyer are on the same level of power. superman cannot beat fury and he cant beat cannonball.

Originally posted by K3VIL
Maybe you should try to inform yourself better.
Superman's force field has protected him from an explosion equal to 1 million nuclear strikes, at point blank distance during HUNTER/PREY saga.He stand up after the blast, and speedblited Doomsday.
The Fury was having troubles with the X-Men, Superman will just slam it into pieces, blast it with full force Heat Vision, throw what remain into the sun, end of fight.
Fury is not Nimrod.
Supes force field can be overwhelmed only by huge energy strikes or physical force

i dont care what kind of punishment superman can take, he has no way of beating or even coming close to beating fury. Fury was created to KILL superhumans and thats what superman is.

dont use doomsday in a argument with fury, doomsday dont come close to having the amount of power fury has. Superman would lose to fury in seconds. How can superman beat a guy and his powers wont even work on him. And if superman can take so much punishment, why did general zod shoot a hole in him with his heat vision and youre saying that superman can take everything fury dishes out. You know nothing of the fury. Why did superman have a black eye and his nose and mouth was bleeding if he can take so much punishment. Fury is superior to any enemy superman has faced alone. I will be back with another bio for you of fury.

oh and if you want to bring up fury breaking cannonball legs, lets bring up superman getting his jaw broke or doomsday grabbing superman arm breaking it.

Captain Marvel is a magical being and Superman fights him all the time.

Doomsday was a whole 'nother beast.

Originally posted by K3VIL
The adult Cannonball has mastered the use of his powers, he's an expert aerial combatant, and as showed during his fight with the Fury, the deus ex robot unleashed against the X-Men, he take anything from him, the Fury itself stated that superstrenght, superspeed, sonic blasts, plasma beams, meson cutters, neutronium bombs, nothing can actually damage the subject, but the Fury keep fightning him.
But during the fight, Cannonball was getting tired, he wasn't flying at his top speed, actually it was to put the Fury into a trap, cause Bishop soon arrived throwing a propane container at the Fury and blasting it with an energy bolt, but Cannonball got a leg injured during the fight, and anyway it was requiring from his body a great amount of energy to keep fighting this unstoppable enemy.Consider that the Fury with a single blow throwed Rachel Summers with a portion of Phoenix Power, that all the X-Fanboy on this board sayed to be hella powerful and strong in the sea near Ireland, from the U.S.A. to Ireland.
Superman is stronger than the Fury, faster, tougher, has great energy reserves, fightning experience, he's an expert aerial combatant.
If the Fury can speedblitz Cannonball, Kal El certainly can, and that will mean Cannonball is going down.

All of those weapons AND superstrength AND superspeed couldn't hurt him...but Superman speedblitzing him with strength alone will?

Like I said, if Sam's field is down before the fight Supes wins--but it's already up before the fight starts, so Superman is screwed.

Also, Cannonball got his leg busted because he got stupid and tried to fight Fury head on. Yes, his injury was affecting him--but he still had enough juice to go a couple more rounds with Fury,get covered in liquid nitrogen, and blast free.

True, the Fury did stretch Rachel--but that's what you get when you fly straight at an enemy that you've never met before. Her power makes her overconfident, but she soon learned that she wasn't invincible. Oh and it knocked her from UK into orbit, then she fell into the Irish sea. She didn't get tossed from USA to Ireland...

Superman is stronger than the Fury,faster, is a great aerial combatant, and has great energy reserves. Fury is tougher, and a much,much,much better fighter than he is due to it's abilities. Fury would work Supes. 🙁

The only way Superman could win is if he just tired Sam out. If he just flew around him throwing random **** at him for like, the whole day Sam would get tired (while Superman won't) and his shield would weaken (mebbe even disappear altogether) THEN Superman could strike. I
doubt Supes would last long enough to do this because he would probably punch Sam at about 1/2 strength, see it has no effect, say "Great Rao!" and try his heat vision/arctic breath. That wouldn't work so he'd try full strength blows--and Sam would keep absorbing the blows--and send them right back at him. At this point Superman could use the plan that I have stated above...but I figured he'd knock himself out after 4 punches (which is basically like him punching himself).

CB wins 8/10. Supes wins 2/10 if he lasts long enough to tire him out.