Umm no i dont belive that sorry i have read comics that seem to rank TOAA's powers ive told you why. In my view THOTU is the total power of TOAA and Thanos had to kill Himself in order to recreate the multiverse fixing it and in that comic to me and it is pretty logical Thanos was TOAA but The Presance just says hay Micheal Lucifer go make a multiverse and it gets down and if He wanted to He is more powerful then both combined He would just snap His fingers and recreate the multiverse.
Originally posted by Mider
Umm no i dont belive that sorry i have read comics that seem to rank TOAA's powers ive told you why. In my view THOTU is the total power of TOAA and Thanos had to kill Himself in order to recreate the multiverse fixing it and in that comic to me and it is pretty logical Thanos was TOAA but The Presance just says hay Micheal Lucifer go make a multiverse and it gets down and if He wanted to He is more powerful then both combined He would just snap His fingers and recreate the multiverse.
Can you give us references about TOAA killing himself just create the Multiverse? What comic and issue was it?
Coz, if you think about it Mider. It doesnt make sense. If TOAA sacrificed his life to create the multiverse, then why does LT refer to TOAA as the one he serves? I mean if LT said that, wouldnt it indicate that TOAA is not dead?
................................you dont listen or what? TOAA ALLOWED HIS POWERS TO BE USERPED BY THANOS THE MAD TITAN THUS THANOS WOULD HAVE TO DIE INSTEAD OF TOAA HIMSELF IF YOU READ THANOS THE END THANOS SAYS THAT THE HEART OF THE UNIVERSE WAS BAIT HE SAYS IT WAS NOTHING BUT A CRUEL JOKE THAT TOAA TRICKED HIM INTO TAKING ITS PLACE IN ORDER SO THAT TOAA DID NOT HAVE TO DIE AFTER THANOS DIED CAUSE HE DRAINED OFF HIS POWERS RECREATING THE MULTIVERSE I WOULD THINK TOAA CAME BACK TO HIS POST AS TOAA.
Thanos was chosen by because of his will Warlock said. He was then rewarded with what he so desired in the past. Death's embrace. Ironic, that one of Marvel's greatest villains was chosen by God to be the savior of the Marvel Universe.. Warlock referred to "HE" and I'm assuming it's the TOAA. It seemed like kind of a test for the Titan. Thanos did say:
If he went to all this trouble to ensnare me there will be no out. Check and Mate.
It was some kind of trap for Thanos. But if the TOAA was really threatened, by any being or entity, he would solve it himself.
you may be right, mider. (don't have to get so worked up though. people are more apt to listen if you don't yell and rant . . .)
you too are making an assumption though - just because there was a trap laid for thanos doesn't necessarily mean thanos had ALL of toaa's power. maybe had he fixed his own problem he would have been severely weakened, or forever changed? maybe he WOULD have died. your thoughts are sound, but ultimately you're only guessing like the rest of us because there MAY be more to the story still.
i am curious mider - since you feel (justifiably i'll admit) that presence is greater than toaa, do you think lucifer is greater than toaa?
<<Props to KGKG, leonidas, Synchro for the last few pages of this thread. You guys know your stuff.>>
thanks sentry. synchro REALLY knows it - better than i do. i've read all of lucifer's appearances in sandman and about the first 10-15 issues of his series. synchro knows it ALL it seems. and kg doesn't do so bad himself . . .
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This is one sentence.
Thanos erased the entire multiverse.
Just how many multiverses are there? This sounds like speculation.
How can Lucifer kill himself? Why would The Presence need a sucessor?
When did the Silver Surfer defeat Galactus?
lucifer can killl himself if he wants, he has his own free will, this is NOT SPECULATION, in marvel there is only ONE multiverse, but in dc there are CONFIRMED, more than one multiverses, all of them created by micheal and lucifer{and one created just by michheal} theres the normal multiverse, and then there is one RULED ENTIRELY BY LUCIFER AND NOT GOD,
im not speculating here man, the beyond realm exists too without a shadow of a doubt, because the enrgy of cosmic cubes somes from the beyond realm and the true beyonder race live there too.
you dont listen or what? TOAA ALLOWED HIS POWERS TO BE USERPED BY THANOS THE MAD TITAN THUS THANOS WOULD HAVE TO DIE INSTEAD OF TOAA HIMSELF IF YOU READ THANOS THE END THANOS SAYS THAT THE HEART OF THE UNIVERSE WAS BAIT HE SAYS IT WAS NOTHING BUT A CRUEL JOKE THAT TOAA TRICKED HIM INTO TAKING ITS PLACE IN ORDER SO THAT TOAA DID NOT HAVE TO DIE AFTER THANOS DIED CAUSE HE DRAINED OFF HIS POWERS RECREATING THE MULTIVERSE I WOULD THINK TOAA CAME BACK TO HIS POST AS TOAA.
do u have any evidence to solidly suggest that TOAA's intentions were to live on and that he USED thanos so that he would die, n also can u be sure that THOTU was equal to all the powers of TOAA, considering that there are places outside of the mulitiverse that were not affected by the destruction of the multiverse like where adam warlock is or the beyond realm,
Originally posted by leonheartmm
you dont listen or what? TOAA ALLOWED HIS POWERS TO BE USERPED BY THANOS THE MAD TITAN THUS THANOS WOULD HAVE TO DIE INSTEAD OF TOAA HIMSELF IF YOU READ THANOS THE END THANOS SAYS THAT THE HEART OF THE UNIVERSE WAS BAIT HE SAYS IT WAS NOTHING BUT A CRUEL JOKE THAT TOAA TRICKED HIM INTO TAKING ITS PLACE IN ORDER SO THAT TOAA DID NOT HAVE TO DIE AFTER THANOS DIED CAUSE HE DRAINED OFF HIS POWERS RECREATING THE MULTIVERSE I WOULD THINK TOAA CAME BACK TO HIS POST AS TOAA.do u have any evidence to solidly suggest that TOAA's intentions were to live on and that he USED thanos so that he would die, n also can u be sure that THOTU was equal to all the powers of TOAA, considering that there are places outside of the mulitiverse that were not affected by the destruction of the multiverse like where adam warlock is or the beyond realm,
Thanos was referring the energy (the almighty he was referring to was the energy , the previous wielder of HOTU) , it was a setup.
It says nothing about TOAA limitation etc