Originally posted by demigawd
I don't get what you're talking about - I already told you where the mass goes - it doesn't go anywhere. Iceman is transferring his consciousness from one body of water (in any form) to another. It's independent of physical mass, regardless of what Superman does to it. Why is that so hard to understand? Unless you'd like to explain some fallacy I'm missing, and something tells me you won't...
OK so you want to get asked another question, which is the same, your saying the atoms that make up his physical mass have all become H2O.
So what level does this happen on? You can use either Superstring or Quark interactions to attempt to explain your answer, but I would love to know where all the energy releases from a 90Kg Mass changing state at this level go. And its hard to understand because I just don't see these changes taking place 😄
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Originally posted by demigawd
Are you referring to teleportation (which is psionic) or state conversion (which is simply a function of him speeding up or slowing down molecular speeds until it shifts state)? Either way, the mass is static, so your question about "where the mass goes" is flawed.
ok so he no longer has any human form thats what your saying.......... right............. so his teleportation is psionic so how exactly does the water molecules take on this mental aspect where is the coherant thought stored wheres the physical form generating these psions 😄 Where does the energy for these state changes come from and go to?
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Originally posted by whirlysplat
A New Zealander hey 😄 well good for you perhaps you can explain as psions are subatomic molecules that are interacted with by the brain, where Bobby's brain the transmitter as it were is now?
If I could I'd be a millionaire due to my subsequently acquired nobel prize. If I knew I wouldn't post it cos then I'd end up still a poor student since no one would know its my theory 😂
Originally posted by whirlysplat
gibberishok so he no longer has any human form thats what your saying.......... right............. so his teleportation is psionic so how exactly does the water molecules take on this mental aspect where is the coherant thought stored wheres the physical form generating these psions 😄 Where does the energy for these state changes come from and go to?
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The fact that he's no longer able to assume a human form lends credence to the thinking that there is no longer a human form to assume, so yes, that is a valid conclusion to make regardless of your sarcastic tone in making it.
You're arguing (or questioning) from a false assumption. In a world where psionics is a valid and real science, it's not simply purely a function of synapse and impulses. Psionics is such that human consciousness is in a form separate from the physical laws that guide it here. In the Marvel Universe, for example, consciousness is hosted in the Astral Plane. That's how devices like Cerebro work - it locates minds on the Astral Plane, where human consciousness is hosted. Bobby's consciousness is hosted there, and from there, it's able to choose water molecules anywhere on earth as a repository, or rather, avatar for that consciousness.
Your ability to accept that is predicated on being able to view psionics as a proven science, which you would have to do in Marvel. Based upon that, it's perfect acceptable to see how teleportation would work for Bobby.
The energy for the state changes are also psionic. Bobby wills them to vibrate or slow down, and they do so. It's not a natural occurrence, which is where you're getting stuck. The catalyst is a command, not environmental.
Originally posted by whirlysplat
OK so bobby has no physical form yet some how his brain interacts with psions to control the state of liquids without any visible input of energy. Am I the only one who sees smething wrong in all this 😄To go further the water is an avatar 😂
Astral plane/psions are interchangeable 😂
And you can speed up and slow down atoms using subatomic particles without an input of energy 😂gibberish
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Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Ah but Superman's biofield somehow manages to seal of each individual cell entirely? How do ions pass in and out to generate action potentials and restore/maintain resting potential. Superman dies because his own biofield prevents him from generating nerve impulses.
he still has a brain to psionically control the energy produced by his field subconciously, receptors, nerves and secondary messengers to act as stimuli to respond to cahnge etc.
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Originally posted by whirlysplat
The old outside of physical laws get out clause has been invoked by Demigawd who has been trying to use scientific arguments.😂
Was that your goal all this time? Of course it can't all be explained by conventional science. But that doesn't mean we can't scientifically explain things. Psionics is a valid science in Marvel and DC, and if that's how it's been stated that thought is formed and used, then that's what we use in conjunction with scientific arguments. I don't get your point.
Every cell in his body though. The lens cells in his eyes should be heavily cataracted by now cos if nothing can pass through the biofield then gap junctions are useless. Neurotransmitters get trapped between the cell and biofield, if things can't get out. No neurotransmitter reuptake if things can't get back in. Superman is literally brain dead.
Well Suzuki, when he suggested the idea of psionics, "indicated" that a brain was needed to intereact with psions 😄 The astral plane I would assume would also need a brain to interact with it 😄 So "Where is Bobby's brain?" no its not a B movie or a joke about 12 year olds getting boners, its a question, Supes has one to interact with psions 😄 Unless Psion means something different in Marvel? (like ill thought out description or poor understanding of science and concepts).
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Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Every cell in his body though. The lens cells in his eyes should be heavily cataracted by now cos if nothing can pass through the biofield then gap junctions are useless. Neurotransmitters get trapped between the cell and biofield, if things can't get out. No neurotransmitter reuptake if things can't get back in. Superman is literally brain dead.
Whats cataracts got to do with an energy field controlled subconciously by receptors etc to provide super homeostasis.
Not at all the cells would be selectively permeable the energy field is like a normal cell membrane except constructed of energy in this sense, it responds to the cells needs allowing constant change to maintain stability😄
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