A physical brain is not required to have a consciousness according to psionics. It's just necessary for controlling the human body. All forms of consciousness are housed on the Astral Plane, and all commands are issued from there through the brain as a proxy - for most people. But for psionics of various kinds, they're able to essentially "bypass the middleman" and directly communicate to and from the Astral Plane. In that case, a physical brain is unnecessary - and that's been shown many times by people such as the Shadow King, or Xavier when his physical body died and existed solely on the Astral Plane. Bobby is classified as a psionic - so a physical brain is unnecessary for communicating with the physical world from the astral plane, where his consciousness is stored. So again, you're questioning from an incorrect pretext. I appreciate the effort, though.
hey energy changes in the field allow it to let through what it wants in response to need its not hard to imagine. Not like psions being controlled with out a brain.
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e.g Water is not polar.
Changes can take place without energy
And subatomic particles can hold consiousness
Originally posted by demigawd
A physical brain is not required to have a consciousness according to psionics. It's just necessary for controlling the human body. All forms of consciousness are housed on the Astral Plane, and all commands are issued from there through the brain as a proxy - for most people. But for psionics of various kinds, they're able to essentially "bypass the middleman" and directly communicate to and from the Astral Plane. In that case, a physical brain is unnecessary - and that's been shown many times by people such as the Shadow King, or Xavier when his physical body died and existed solely on the Astral Plane. Bobby is classified as a psionic - so a physical brain is unnecessary for communicating with the physical world from the astral plane, where his consciousness is stored. So again, you're questioning from an incorrect pretext. I appreciate the effort, though.
Wheres your definition of psionics coming from?
Its not Suzuki's 😂
Astral plane has nothing to do with psions, astral plane is esoteric not scientific, you need to "take off" to the philosophy forum with your "astral plane".
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It's very simple:
Iceman has ascended from physical form to a 'psionic' energy being which can be conducted in moisture.
Similar to Cyborg Superman and metals, Proteus (Moira McTaggert's son) and organic bodies lacking metal, or Swamp Thing and plants, rocks, water, fire, etc.
So long as the matter that can conduct his consciousness (water based fluids/moisture) is present, he exists, and he can transfer his disembodied consciousness along this conductor seamlessly. So long as Superman's body contains moisture, Bobby will own him.
Your decision to accept or not accept that consciousness is divorced from brain functions in psionic study is up to you. But I'm arguing from precedent, as I've named examples of just such a thing happening with several characters (not to mention characters such as Electro and Sandman). If it frustrates you, perhaps you're reading the wrong form of entertainment. 🙂
Originally posted by whirlysplat
Wheres your definition of psionics coming from?
Its not Suzuki's 😂
Astral plane has nothing to do with psions, astral plane is esoteric not scientific, you need to "take off" to the philosophy forum with your "astral plane".Here play with this ball on your own 😄
Keep the faith😄
Stay Whirly 🤘
Still bored
It's not Suzuki's study of psionics, it's Lee's that I'm using.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
What makes Bobbies "psionic" ability stronger than Supes "psionic" ability to unconsciously control his selectively permeable forcefield?Answer? Nothing. He wont be able to do anything to get through it.
He doesn't have to do anything to get through it. He just has to ride the bodily fluids naturally contained in Supes own body composition to get through it. Then it's game over.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
What makes Bobbies "psionic" ability stronger than Supes "psionic" ability to unconsciously control his selectively permeable forcefield?Answer? Nothing. He wont be able to do anything to get through it.
Easy - Bobby's is conscious, Superman's isn't. Superman's "forcefields" have been invasively permeated by pretty much anybody who has psionic command of molecules - like the aforementioned Manchester Black and Dr. Polaris.
Originally posted by demigawd
Easy - Bobby's is conscious, Superman's isn't. Superman's "forcefields" have been invasively permeated by pretty much anybody who has psionic command of molecules - like the aforementioned Manchester Black and Dr. Polaris.
Consciousness without any kind of physical form 😂
I am leaving this thread again its sooooooooo silly
No I have stated Water is polar
The astral plane is esoteric
Changes require energy
Psions are subatomic particles which interact with the mind
The mind requires some physicality
etc etc etc
So bored no great truth, just keep playing with your balls demigawd 😉
Keep the faith
Whirly Signing off again 😄
enjoy your "Science" 😂 Astral Plane landing, bump, bump, crash
Originally posted by whirlysplat
Psions are conducted by moisture?😂
So these psions hold his conciousness 😂
Sorry its not simple at all, how the hell did I miss this when we first chatted, it to funny for words😂
Hey, I'm not the author. It's the same premise used for other energy based beings in DC, Marvel, and elsewhere. "Spirits", if you will. Bobby is basically a 'water wraith' if that seems more feasible then a conventional scientific explanation.
Have you ever seen the film "Fallen" with John Goodman and Denzel Washington. The being Azazul whose essence could only continue if he inhabited host bodies. Bobby is like that, but he has to inhabit moisture.
But for some reason, I think you get that part Whirly...
Originally posted by demigawd
Easy - Bobby's is conscious, Superman's isn't. Superman's "forcefields" have been invasively permeated by pretty much anybody who has psionic command of molecules - like the aforementioned Manchester Black and Dr. Polaris.
Practically everyone has psionic command of molecules by these theories...including Supes.
Notice how these characters werent able to kill supes.