Originally posted by LordFear
Ok to respond to your three reasons:
1. So if deep space has no effect on his innards because of his force field, then why an attack from the OUTSIDE from Bobby would affect him then? It's like your argument is not consistent because it only works for one thing not the other.
2.GL? The man protects or surrounds himself with a thin layer of forcefield at all times. That field envelops him at all times and only his mental command can take it off or if the ring is at low power.
3.Supes holds his breath everytime he goes into space?
Can that be verified accurately? Then how can he talk in space?
Wouldn't his vocal cords need air to have the sounds resonate?
I really don't understand. If that's not the case, then either way that only proves even further how alien his anatomy is and how this plan of attack is just an unfounded idea.
1) I'm not arguing an external attack, I'm arguing an internal attack.
2) GLs fly through space as Supes does with no temperature effects. It's not his physiology that protects him, it's his forcefield.
3) DC has established that Supes has to breath. He eats by choice, but it doesn't change the fact his body can and does metabolize foreign substances, meaning that his innards are not fully protected by his biomatrix.
Originally posted by Superherovandal
plus even his cells are surrounded by his aura. So Iceman won't be doing anything in there.
No, obviously they are not. Supes eats food, drinks water, breaths air, and metabolizes all of the above, meaning that his biomatrix can be circumvented from the inside or else no substance would be able to pass through and be metabolized by his body.
So since know one buys my theory about his mouisture inverioning Supes head off, (which of course im now wondering if he can turn ANYTHING into water vapor because all he really does is convert molecules into water vapor wouldnt that convert the forcefield as well?) im gonna have to say I agree with what illadelph is saying and also that he might inhale those piosones gases but since he is alien to him it might not be poisones.....he can wreck havok from the inside out. Iceman has a tactical advantage in this battle.
Originally posted by Superherovandal
if you knew anything about science you would know that cell allow certain things into themselves. They wouldn't allow a bacterium to enter it unless it has like a sort of bypass glycoprotein.
Exactly.
Which is why Bobby would kill Superman. His body metabolizes water. Bobby can become water. His immune system cannot distinguish between regular water and water with a disembodied mutant consciouness, they are both the exact same substance. Supes body does not defend against water, and Bobby's consciousness does not have substance and would not register as a foreign intruder or organism.
What about in AoA where Colossus rams Iceman trying to run after Illyana? Didn't he kill Iceman then? Or was he just "out of form" and came back later? But if Colossus did kill Iceman then Superman surely can too.
Iceman did freeze Legion, so I can see him do the same to Superman, the only problem is what if Superman moves too fast for Iceman to focus on?
And besides, how do you kill water?? Polute it? Mix it with cement?
Re: Iceman (full potential) vs. Superman
Originally posted by FieryBalrog
I'm inclined to think Superman would win, just because he is so durable and has a ton of options. But I think Iceman has a shot and I like him, besides he's the underdog. Lets say they fight in New York City to give Iceman a bit of an advantage.
Superman. Supes just fly over to boby and snap his neck, fights over. 🙂