Originally posted by dvampire
He can die just like every other human being. 🙂
ummmm.....no. sorry but now Icy cant be physically harmed or killed....he just takes the water vapor in the air and makes himself a new body.....and even if every icy piece is broken he still lives as water vapor, which means unless he goes to the sun, space, or their is a telepathic person there he isnt gonna die.
Originally posted by LordFearNot bloody likely, Hydrogen and Oxygen are too small for photon's to react to in the same way. We can only really "see" these things by observing their interaction with other particles. And there would be more in the air than just iceman's particles. . .
He can magnify his vision like a microscope and discern certain particles.
Originally posted by LordFearHow can he do that?
He can also atomic separate them or fuse them( just like atom a smasher) atomic fusion or fission.
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Now Supes can use his "vision" to bond or seperate atoms?? Please provide a scan of this, I've got to see this. If that's true he could focus his eyes and make a focused beam of water stream out of his eyes by bonding hydrogen and oxygen atoms in the atmosphere. I HIGHLY doubt that is possible.
On the flipside, it's been established, by DC themselves, that Supes breathes. Iceman could kill him internally. There is no way for Superman to tell where Iceman is once he becomes vapor because Supes is not telepathic. In that form the only way for Supes to pinpoint Iceman would be through psionics, water vapor is far to prevelant in the air for him to discern. All Bobby has to do is dissipate, move along the moisture in the air into Supes lungs as he breathes, and move into his blood stream. From there he can either freeze up Supes flood flow in his hear and cause a severe heart attack, or cause ice crystals in his blood flow that cause a stroke when they reach Supes brain.
Either equals a dead kryptonian.
Iceman wins.
Originally posted by manjaro
actually supes innards are protected as well becuase thats where the bioshield comes from in the first place. meaning that, its each individual cell in his body that exudes an energy signature and then all of them put together forms skin level protection.
I understand all that. It doesn't change the fact that Supes:
1)Breathes and metabolizes air.
2)Drinks and metabolizes water.
3)Eats and metabolizes food.
4)Body contains fluids, with the abundance being water.
Bobby can attack him internally by bypassing his protection. The fact that Supes metabolizes air and water means Bobby's avenue of attack is open. Supes body already allows these normally non lethal substances into his body, Iceman just has to hitch a ride inside when Supes inhales, then from inside attack him at the cellular level, since air and fluids are allowed through his forcefield (he does metabolize them, so they must be allowed through his forcefield).
Originally posted by Superherovandal
if you knew anything about science you would know that cell allow certain things into themselves. They wouldn't allow a bacterium to enter it unless it has like a sort of bypass glycoprotein.
Iceman is not a bacterium, he is water vapor. If you knew anything about science you'd know that cells allow water into and out of themselves all the time- its probably THE most common and important thing happening in any cell at any time. Water travels throughout the body. Bobbys water molecules dont come with little antibodies saying "hey, we belong to iceman, you dont like us!" Its not even like cancer, because cancer can be detected by the immune system because of the genetic damage and the resultant misformed proteins... If water can get into and out of Supes biofield- and it must be able to- than so can iceman...
Originally posted by FieryBalrogWater moves so freely that they have a seperate name for it and everything.
Iceman is not a bacterium, he is water vapor. If you knew anything about science you'd know that cells allow water into and out of themselves all the time- its probably THE most common and important thing happening in any cell at any time. Water travels throughout the body. Bobbys water molecules dont come with little antibodies saying "hey, we belong to iceman, you dont like us!" Its not even like cancer, because cancer can be detected by the immune system because of the genetic damage and the resultant misformed proteins... If water can get into and out of Supes biofield- and it must be able to- than so can iceman...
Osmosis.
How would his cells know the difference between iceman controlled water and regular water? 🙂
Does that help you out at all? 😕
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Crazy, right? They specifically said that he needs to breathe. I don't think he brought a tank of O2 in there with him, so what gives?
I didn't follow Prime, but from what I can extrapolate: the Sun re-energizes Supes. And the fact that he slept in it, it's like regeneration going at a faster rate than he needs to breath ... eat ... or drink? Does that make sense?
On this note, if it were possible for Supe to somehow contain Iceman and put him in the Sun, that'd kill him cuz there's enough heat to split atoms.
Btw, I haven't seen Iceman turned into vapor. I mean he is "ICE" man, and I've seen him broken into slivers of ice, never turn into water or vapor form. Nor have I seen him manipulate water. He has manipulated water by turning it into ice, but not it's liquid or gas form. I could be wrong.
exerpt from marveldirectory:
"The Iceman is a mutant with the superhuman ability to lower his external and internal body temperature, projecting intense coldness from his body"
"Through practice, the Iceman has learned to control the intensity of his coldness, and he can selectively lower the temperature of isolated parts of his body."
So no indication that Iceman can raise temperature above 0C, or even to 100C to turn water into vapor. Unless "full potential" means that it makes him "The Water-Man-ipulator" .... haha
And no one answered my question: what happened to Iceman when Colussus ram him in AoA