Iceman (full potential) vs. Superman

Started by Juntai90 pages

Originally posted by psycho gundam
sure superman got out of that, but unlike that child iceman at his peak can't be beaten by physical punishment, and holding onto him could result in a similar lowering of superman's body temperature all over again. subsequent lowering then heightening of his body temperature "should" tax superman over time. and the seemingly 0k (or near to it) temperatures peak iceman can achieve imo would be detrimental to superman's physiology, especially his precious stomach.
The difference is, that same situation happens everytime Superman is frozen by one means or another, up to and including chrono suspension of his molocules.

As a result, the evidence is in my favor here. With no evidence to the contrary being shown.

Originally posted by Juntai
Already all dealt with.

However, got scans of Bobby in continuity flash freezing someone's brain into swiss cheese?

Nope, but that is what happens when you freeze stuff. At least in the real world....and I'm assuming it does in that world too since water freezes the same way. Also, supermans body may be like a nuclear reactor making thermal energy by splitting atoms, but Bobby's power absorbs thermal energy and makes it absolute zero. So it doesn't matter how much heat he makes when it is instantly absorbed.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Nope, but that is what happens when you freeze stuff. At least in the real world....and I'm assuming it does in that world too since water freezes the same way. Also, supermans body may be like a nuclear reactor making thermal energy by splitting atoms, but Bobby's power absorbs thermal energy and makes it absolute zero. So it doesn't matter how much heat he makes when it is instantly absorbed.

He affects thermal energy through water, though.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Nope, but that is what happens when you freeze stuff. At least in the real world....and I'm assuming it does in that world too since water freezes the same way. Also, supermans body may be like a nuclear reactor making thermal energy by splitting atoms, but Bobby's power absorbs thermal energy and makes it absolute zero. So it doesn't matter how much heat he makes when it is instantly absorbed.
So we're to attempt to debate against plain denial, and random comments with no backup?

p.s. stuff doesn't turn into cheese when you freeze it.

Superman's gotten out of situations like the one he'd be up against.

what ways can bobby be beaten?

Originally posted by Allankles
He affects thermal energy through water, though.
No, he doesn't.

His control of thermal energy causing things to freeze as a side effect.

He didn't freeze Strangers heat vision, or stop a nuclear reactor explosion by simply covering with ice.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
sure superman got out of that, but unlike that child iceman at his peak can't be beaten by physical punishment, and holding onto him could result in a similar lowering of superman's body temperature all over again. subsequent lowering then heightening of his body temperature "should" tax superman over time. and the seemingly 0k (or near to it) temperatures peak iceman can achieve imo would be detrimental to superman's physiology, especially his precious stomach.

How in the hell Iceman is going to freeze Superman when he is in the Sun?

Juntai is my hero.

Originally posted by h1a8
How in the hell Iceman is going to freeze Superman when he is in the Sun?
cause superman won't put him there. even darkseid wasn't worthy of that and he's a bastard.

Originally posted by Juntai
So we're to attempt to debate against plain denial, and random comments with no backup?

p.s. stuff doesn't turn into cheese when you freeze it.

Thermal Molecular Rearrangement

Iceman will turn his brain into cheese.

Originally posted by Juntai
So we're to attempt to debate against plain denial, and random comments with no backup?

p.s. stuff doesn't turn into cheese when you freeze it.

Uhm, not sure what i said that i didnt back up with fact? And i didnt say it turned to cheese i said he swiss chessed it aka puts holes in it. and that is what happens when cells freeze, the ice crystals that form rupture them. Thats why we can't freeze someone cryogenicaly and unfreeze them. Here if you want to read up on a study. http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119076307/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0
Now what you should have argued is that supermans cells are too strong for the water inside of them to damage them even when it freezes. Of course then he would just be frozen solid and unable to move.

disregard my last post. I'm wrong.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
disregard my last post. I'm wrong.
Never admit that, WTF ARE YOU DOING?!

Originally posted by Mindset
Never admit that, WTF ARE YOU DOING?!

He's still young to the ways of the forc..err Kmc. Give it time and he will be used to the board etiquette and rules.

Rule 34, section 2f
-Canadian characters are obscure and they can kick your favorite characters ass. No questions...just ass

Originally posted by Mindset
Never admit that, WTF ARE YOU DOING?!

lol i realized that in the DC world theres never been anything showing that freezing something damages cellular structure. So where as it is a scientific fact here, apparently it doesn't happen there. I still don't see how Supes would beat him if he's in his intangible form though.

Brain Freeze supes maybe? It's been shown in caps that his blood does start to get slushy and slow down when he gets cold. Being as iceman can make him stay cold he wouldn't be able to just break out of it.

Superman will turn Iceman into this

You?

Yep

Akward.