Iceman (full potential) vs. Superman

The fact that he and and a lot of people seem to constantly lowball supes and additionally overlook any and all of his feats that would completly negate this fight in favor of supes.

These threads seem to be really Marvel vs. D.C. and the Marvel fans seem to be a little more bias than the D.C. ones.

I like Supes but I won't make unsupported claims or take huge leaps in judgment when debating for him. If Supes has been shown exploitable to freezing I would have no problem admitting bobby can win, but the fact that he has overcome full choron suspension and is essentially a sun reactor internally and externally....it just doesn't seem possible bobby can do anything.

Originally posted by Makky
I like Supes but I won't make unsupported claims or take huge leaps in judgment when debating for him. If Supes has been shown exploitable to freezing I would have no problem admitting bobby can win, but the fact that he has overcome full choron suspension and is essentially a sun reactor internally and externally....it just doesn't seem possible bobby can do anything.

well may i ask what can superman possibly do to Ice man at his full potential?

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
well may i ask what can superman possibly do to Ice man at his full potential?

I don't really know, it sounds as if bobby cannot be defeated physically so I would assume the only option clark has is though T-VO. Sure clark could melt him but if bobby is a psionic being then anything short of T-VO wouldn't have a effect.

Originally posted by Makky
I like Supes but I won't make unsupported claims or take huge leaps in judgment when debating for him. If Supes has been shown exploitable to freezing I would have no problem admitting bobby can win, but the fact that he has overcome full choron suspension and is essentially a sun reactor internally and externally....it just doesn't seem possible bobby can do anything.

He freezes thermal energy via H20 molecules, the incidents where different in that sense. Supes body is a sun reactor, as already explained its a near impossibility bobby will freeze something that isn't even there.

Originally posted by Makky
He freezes thermal energy via H20 molecules, the incidents where different in that sense. Supes body is a sun reactor, as already explained its a near impossibility bobby will freeze something that isn't even there.

He is called "Iceman"for a reason, and its not known if clark has water in his body or not but by all indications thus far from comics its a pretty safe assertion to assume he doesn't. On the other assuming Bobby effects thermal energy directly would be a bit of a leap in judgment.

Originally posted by Makky
He is called "Iceman"for a reason, and its not known if clark has water in his body or not but by all indications thus far from comics its a pretty safe assertion to assume he doesn't. On the other assuming Bobby effects thermal energy directly would be a bit of a leap in judgment.

Its unknown if it supes can be exploited the way its been suggested.

Originally posted by Makky
He is called "Iceman"for a reason, and its not known if clark has water in his body or not but by all indications thus far from comics its a pretty safe assertion to assume he doesn't. On the other assuming Bobby effects thermal energy directly would be a bit of a leap in judgment.

Nm, don't answer, you don't know.

Originally posted by Mindset
He was named Iceman in 1960s, the reason was all he could do was cover himself in snow and throw snow balls...how does that mean he is only limited to manipulating h2o now when his powers have been enhanced?

Nm, don't answer, you don't know.

So he can somehow directly influence kinetic energy and thermal energy, srry u guys gotta stop inventing ideas when its suited to ur characters. As it stands there isn't anything bobby can do to clark, and since there hasn't been any evidence to the contrary it will remain that way.

Originally posted by Makky
Its unknown if it supes can be exploited the way its been suggested.

Originally posted by Makky
So he can somehow directly influence kinetic energy and thermal energy, srry u guys gotta stop inventing ideas when its suited to ur characters. As it stands there isn't anything bobby can do to clark, and since there hasn't been any evidence to the contrary it will remain that way.

Originally posted by Starscream M
you realize that superman has blood right? you realize that blood is liquid right? you realize that iceman can freeze liquid right?

Originally posted by Starscream M
you realize that superman has blood right? you realize that blood is liquid right? you realize that iceman can freeze liquid right?

Why I never realized this, this means I should just negate every counter-argument that completly nullifies Iceman's win and just believe bobby wins cause I like him better as a character....thanks man for showing me the light.

Originally posted by Mindset
Don't assume he realizes anything, you'll only set yourself up for disappointment.

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Originally posted by Makky
... its not known if clark has water in his body or not but by all indications thus far from comics its a pretty safe assertion to assume he doesn't...

so blood doesn't contain water?

Hasn't superman been dehydrated by atomic bombs before or something like that? How did they dehydrate him if he doesn't have water in him? And he stated on panel that he could feel his blood freezing.....so either way whatever is in his body can be frozen according to superman himself.