You're point?
I read his statement and it was if Iceman wasn't an Omega. I simply stated, he was.
Iceman potential is hard to quantify.
Didn't Thor state that, his powers could reach levels that are equal to those of powerful elementals such as the likes of Ymir?
What is the Full Potential of Infinite Potential?
This thread if you consider what Iceman is supposedly capable off, and take into account his Infinite Potental with his powers, and this thread is a stomp, and a spite. Superman gets massacred.
Some could argue, that Superman's potential can reach the levels of Superman Prime, and beyond.
The truth is, that a great deal of characters, become infintely more powerful, if you take into account their supposed potential. It's off course subjective but still.
Either way, according to the title of this thread, it's Iceman at Full Potential vs. Superman.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Some could argue, that Superman's potential can reach the levels of Superman Prime, and beyond.The truth is, that a great deal of characters, become infintely more powerful, if you take into account their supposed potential. It's off course subjective but still.
Either way, according to the title of this thread, it's Iceman at Full Potential vs. Superman.
Actually I see what you mean....its kinda hard to tell what that is.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You're point?I read his statement and it was if Iceman wasn't an Omega. I simply stated, he was.
Iceman potential is hard to quantify.
Didn't Thor state that, his powers could reach levels that are equal to those of powerful elementals such as the likes of Ymir?
What is the Full Potential of Infinite Potential?
This thread if you consider what Iceman is supposedly capable off, and take into account his Infinite Potental with his powers, and this thread is a stomp, and a spite. Superman gets massacred.
so we just forget about bobby drake as a character then?
and honestly, you can quantify infinity now?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What are you talking about?When did I say I could quantify infinity?
I said the opposite.
What do you mean, we just forget about Bobby Drake as a character?
people are arguing his powerset more than they are his character, is what i meant.
thor's statement is reliable how? was this during the x-factor days?
this entire thread is far fetched speculation. if iceman was that powerful, then yes, obviously he could win. there is no precedent for a thread like this at all.
even iceman NOW is a bloomin idiot with his powers 90% of the time. we're going to assume making him more powerful will take away the awesome stupidity he displays most of the time?
this thread is supposed to be full potential iceman. being omega, his potential is limitless. how are we supposed to gauge him at his full potential, then?
i just think this thread is kind of pointless, tbh...
Originally posted by Raoul
people are arguing his powerset more than they are his character, is what i meant.thor's statement is reliable how? was this during the x-factor days?
this entire thread is far fetched speculation. if iceman was that powerful, then yes, obviously he could win. there is no precedent for a thread like this at all.
even iceman NOW is a bloomin idiot with his powers 90% of the time. we're going to assume making him more powerful will take away the awesome stupidity he displays most of the time?
this thread is supposed to be full potential iceman. being omega, his potential is limitless. how are we supposed to gauge him at his full potential, then?
i just think this thread is kind of pointless, tbh...
Thor was gauging his level of power, as he would continue to grow in power. It should be considered valid to an extent.
Current Iceman is more powerful than he has ever been, more confident, and more smarter.
Bobby Drake currently, isn't the same stupid kid he was. Mystique did him a favor. His grown up, and isn't cracking jokes. That much is obvious. He is incredibly skilled in wielding his power.
We can't directly judge his level of power, but if we know it's enough to beat the crap out of Superman, that's all we will ever need.
Current Iceman can beat Current Superman. We don't need him at Full Potential.
Originally posted by RaoulHow can you read X-men and think Iceman is still an idiot?
people are arguing his powerset more than they are his character, is what i meant.thor's statement is reliable how? was this during the x-factor days?
this entire thread is far fetched speculation. if iceman was that powerful, then yes, obviously he could win. there is no precedent for a thread like this at all.
even iceman NOW is a bloomin idiot with his powers 90% of the time. we're going to assume making him more powerful will take away the awesome stupidity he displays most of the time?
this thread is supposed to be full potential iceman. being omega, his potential is limitless. how are we supposed to gauge him at his full potential, then?
i just think this thread is kind of pointless, tbh...
Most arguments have not even been using Iceman at his full potential, they have actually been based on things he has done.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor was gauging his level of power, as he would continue to grow in power. It should be considered valid to an extent.Current Iceman is more powerful than he has ever been, more confident, and more smarter.
yes, i know.
Bobby Drake currently, isn't the same stupid kid he was. Mystique did him a favor. His grown up, and isn't cracking jokes. That much is obvious. He is incredibly skilled in wielding his power.
he's more skilled than before, yes, but he's nowhere near what he should be. and that whole mystique thing wasn't really that long ago...
Current Iceman can beat Current Superman. We don't need him at Full Potential.
can? maybe. would? not for a majority, imo.
Originally posted by Mindset
How can you read X-men and think Iceman is still an idiot?
because as i said, he's not half of what he should be.
This is a tie, nothing more, nothing less. Now if you get a iceman and actually have proof of him using his full potential instead of holding back majority of the time, then yes, he wins this fight every damn time but until then, he's not taking out supes and supes aint taking out iceman.
But if I had to decide, I would give it to iceman.