Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Superman cells are solar batteries. He can vibrate to save the Omniverse. He is almost as fast as the flash. He can thor Iceman into the Sun within a second. Yeah great contest... btw can Iceman freeze the Sun?
Why don't you read the 86 pages and find out. Also Supes can't thor nobody he is a pussy. A strong pussy at that but still a pussy.
Originally posted by Lord Feron
Why don't you read the 86 pages and find out. Also Supes can't thor nobody he is a pussy. A strong pussy at that but still a pussy.
I mean throw sorry, and honestly, I'm not going to read 86 pages of a fight that isn't worth more then three posts, because the outcome is obvious, if you take the Heroes at their best.
Bobby will be a statue, frozen, to Superman. He lacks the speed and even if he would get a shot, I don't think he can freeze Superman or at least freeze him fast enough.
There is nothing ICE Man can do to Superman. Just because you can tear a piece of paper doesn't mean you can tear a 500 page book. Superman is invulnerable, Ice man can't do a thing to him. If he goes into mist form, superman will breath him in his super lungs and sneeze him into the sun. ICE - Man's conscious remaining alive on earth to reform is a possiblity but this thread isn't about perma death. If this is about perma death, tell me who other than Thanos and Darkseid can kill him?
Don't know if it was mentioned in 80+ pages of debate, but I remember the old story where Killer Frost freezes Superman's brain with an ice-blast, thus causing him to turn in to her ice mind-controlled slave due to his brain being semi-frozen. I think he was rescued and freed by Firestorm or something.
Originally posted by basiliskWell I don't know when that happened or the details of it but maybe it is a low showing.
Don't know if it was mentioned in 80+ pages of debate, but I remember the old story where Killer Frost freezes Superman's brain with an ice-blast, thus causing him to turn in to her ice mind-controlled slave due to his brain being semi-frozen. I think he was rescued and freed by Firestorm or something.
What that said, Superman has resisted his molecules from completely stopping (and not being slowed as in freezing) when some new gods froze him using some time molecule stopper or something like that. Superman claimed it felt like he was freezing but quickly resisted it and broke out.
Now If this Iceman can reach absolute zero on superman and Superman sits there than lets him do it then Iceman wins. But this is IF this Iceman can reach it own his own.
But the problem here is that Superman can grab Iceman and fly him into space before he can blink. If Iceman goes vapor form, Superman allows him the time to, then Superman can expel Iceman from his mouth into space (either after sucking him in or if Iceman decides to enter superman's body).
But full potential Iceman does have a chance to win here provided he can not only get to absolute zero but to absolute zero fast enough. It's just unlikely due to Superman's speed and many other options to win.
Originally posted by h1a8iceman's is a psionic being that animates water or some such nonsense. he can simply possess the water in SM's body. of course, the actual 616 iceman sucks and would never defeat superman.
Well I don't know when that happened or the details of it but maybe it is a low showing.What that said, Superman has resisted his molecules from completely stopping (and not being slowed as in freezing) when some new gods froze him using some time molecule stopper or something like that. Superman claimed it felt like he was freezing but quickly resisted it and broke out.
Now If this Iceman can reach absolute zero on superman and Superman sits there than lets him do it then Iceman wins. But this is IF this Iceman can reach it own his own.
But the problem here is that Superman can grab Iceman and fly him into space before he can blink. If Iceman goes vapor form, Superman allows him the time to, then Superman can expel Iceman from his mouth into space (either after sucking him in or if Iceman decides to enter superman's body).
But full potential Iceman does have a chance to win here provided he can not only get to absolute zero but to absolute zero fast enough. It's just unlikely due to Superman's speed and many other options to win.
Originally posted by Mindsetgood point. this may be another problem for him. Unless he can compress the liquid in his lungs and expels him later. Idk.
So Superman is going to expel the fluid from his body?
this fight remains unknown since we don't know the limits of what this iceman can do. can he go absolute zero? How fast can he go absolute zero? How fast can he change states (with respect to Superman's perception)?
I'm just going to say I don't know who wins unless the OP puts some limits on what this Iceman can do.