Originally posted by GalacticStorm
LT most certainly is top dog in the multiverse. Its just a pity Jean evolved and became second to TOAA in existence.
Second to TOAA
Funny
Top dawg = Most powerful
LT = Power over all creation, Multiverse
God wasn't mention because god is GOD
Phoenix was ignored
Phoenix feats? zip
Originally posted by kgkg
Second to TOAAFunny
Top dawg = Most powerful
LT = Power over all creation, Multiverse
God wasn't mention because god is GOD
Phoenix was ignored
Phoenix feats? zip
Phoenix feats equal making creation. Containing the power of the end of all that is otherwise known as the M'kraan crystal. The device that resets the entire multiverse. Phoenix is also the life energy of the multiverse.
Lt guards the multiverse. You could even say he's phoenixes personal bodyguard lol
LT equals a cosmic judge of the multiverse, he has yet to show any power over creation, that we know is phoenixes power. Phoenix has been ignored for years its a shame but it means zip, because where it hasnt been ignored its been placed above LT.
Youre good with the scans KG why dont you post the other two occassions the abstracts are gathered in Xmen forever?
Scared they might reveal the truth to the forum?
LT has no power in the white hot room im afraid which is why i made the distinction. As you know Phoenix exists beyond the multiverse in the white hot room. Therefore LT's the man to take down to get to the top of the multiverses hierarchy. Its just a pity he's 3rd in existence. As stated by the watcher, as shown quite clearly by Xmen forever. Just post the scans KG dont be shy.
Phoenix feats equal making creation. Containing the power of the end of all that is otherwise known as the M'kraan crystal. The device that resets the entire multiverse. Phoenix is also the life energy of the multiverse. Lt guards the multiverse. You could even say he's phoenixes personal bodyguard lol LT equals a cosmic judge of the multiverse, he has yet to show any power over creation, that we know is phoenixes power. Phoenix has been ignored for years its a shame but it means zip, because where it hasnt been ignored its been placed above LT. Youre good with the scans KG why dont you post the other two occassions the abstracts are gathered in Xmen forever? Scared they might reveal the truth to the forum?
why change subject?
did you read X-men forever did you find where it says it effected all universe , and all reality?
still wating the pho that M'kraan crystal got owned by LT already
and ya
Originally posted by kgkg
why change subject?did you read X-men forever did you find where it says it effected all universe , and all reality?
still wating the pho that M'kraan crystal got owned by LT already
and ya
Phoenix dealt with M'kraan in 1980. The retcon occurred in early 86 before Inferno it started with the return of Jean who later went on to be in Inferno. The What If was Inferno related and do happened after the retcon. You were saying?
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Phoenix dealt with M'kraan in 1980. The retcon occurred in early 86 before Inferno it started with the return of Jean who later went on to be in Inferno. The What If was Inferno related and do happened after the retcon. You were saying?
So what was the gambit shit suppose to show?
😆
Originally posted by kgkg
So what was the gambit shit suppose to show?😆
Oh i see what were you meant. Let me clarify. As i you know by now the retcon happened from 86 till about 2002. Between that time phoenix and jean were made separate things and the kaballah principles were ignored as was phoenix and its position in the multiverse. There were some writers who still supported the pre-retcon ideas wherein phoenixs position and the ideas behind it werent ignored and that was Xternals.
So whats your point KG? You dont have one. That What If followed the general trend of the retcon period whereas Gambit and the Xternals didnt, quite obviously for it to say what it did. That title positioned phoenix where it was pre-retcon and where xmen forever, New Xmen and Endsong have helped to re-position phoenix now.
As for eternity saying this evolution is something that occurs as the natural end for a universe that is supported in Forever here:
""""""What the Stranger fails to comprehend is that the abstract entities accept the inevitable fate of the universe. It is the cyclical nature of the tapestry to weave its own end to a new beginning""""""""
As i said before, the stranger too thought it was just about destroying the universe that it was something the abstracts feared because the evolution meant they would get replaced, therefore he wished to gain the power of the ultimate mutation (before the abstracts can destroy humanity way before their potential) to quickly destroy this universe and the abstracts with it and start it over again as the supreme being of the new universe. However Eternity tells Jean that the abstracts accept their fate because their replacement in this manner is a natural part of the cycle of life within a universe, which is why they helped it along by implanting the genetic potential into early forms of humanity that would eventually manifest itself down the line as the ultimate potential, able to become one with the primal force of creation. That is what the ultimate potential is. Mutants are helped in coming into being by the abstracts as a means of them "weaving their own end to a new beginning". So that the universe can start anew. Its what they want. That is how mutants come into being. Are there or are there not mutants in alternate realities, in other eternities? Thats why i said you have to stop thinking so narrow midedly. Its something that happens across creation and the abstracts want it it helps to keep the cycle going. The want to be surpassed and replaced so that creation ends, everything dissolves into the white hot room courtesy of phoenix just so that phoenix can start creation anew.
Oh i see what were you meant. Let me clarify. As i you know by now the retcon happened from 86 till about 2002. Between that time phoenix and jean were made separate things and the kaballah principles were ignored as was phoenix and its position in the multiverse. There were some writers who still supported the pre-retcon ideas wherein phoenixs position and the ideas behind it werent ignored and that was Xternals. So whats your point KG? You dont have one. That What If followed the general trend of the retcon period whereas Gambit and the Xternals didnt, quite obviously for it to say what it did. That title positioned phoenix where it was pre-retcon and where xmen forever, New Xmen and Endsong have helped to re-position phoenix now. As for eternity saying this evolution is something that occurs as the natural end for a universe that is supported in Forever here:
You got to be kidding me GS
So if it helps the cause it's Original idea , and if not it is retcon ( sorry doesn't work that way)
Either way When Phoenix force was no match for LT, The crystal has never been changed, The crystal always has been , and always is the same( references are made).
Reference to the crystal is made thought the retcon period not just Gamit ( some writer choose to go with before 86 you got to be shitting me Where does it say the crystal has changed as well)
Its part Phoenix history (never changed)
Therefore
LT> PF (the that contained the crystal )
As i said before, the stranger too thought it was just about destroying the universe that it was something the abstracts feared because the evolution meant they would get replaced, therefore he wished to gain the power of the ultimate mutation (before the abstracts can destroy humanity way before their potential) to quickly destroy this universe and the abstracts with it and start it over again as the supreme being of the new universe. However Eternity tells Jean that the abstracts accept their fate because their replacement in this manner is a natural part of the cycle of life within a universe, which is why they helped it along by implanting the genetic potential into early forms of humanity that would eventually manifest itself down the line as the ultimate potential, able to become one with the primal force of creation. That is what the ultimate potential is. Mutants are helped in coming into being by the abstracts as a means of them "weaving their own end to a new beginning". So that the universe can start anew. Its what they want. That is how mutants come into being. Are there or are there not mutants in alternate realities, in other eternities? Thats why i said you have to stop thinking so narrow midedly. Its something that happens across creation and the abstracts want it it helps to keep the cycle going. The want to be surpassed and replaced so that creation ends, everything dissolves into the white hot room courtesy of phoenix just so that phoenix can start creation anew.
That’s that just helps my point of view
Universe --- key word
Ok the abstracts of the universe get replaced 🙂
A part of Order, a part of Chaos get replaced as you know Order and Chaos are in all universes
🙂 Nice try
Universe ------- not Universes
Please find me where it says Universes, all reality?
According to that comic human > Doom of all abstract of the Universe ( not Universe)
LT wins again
Phoenix highest feats containing Crystal which got owned by LT
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
[B]Beyonder son stop jumping on the bandwagon because you see in KG a chance to accomplish that which you are incapable of seeing to yourself. That being the defeat of the GalacticStorm lol. Its actually in comic book form this time Beyonder, its clearly shown. For goodness sake LT is shown on a few occassions in the comic as being due for a replacement by the ultimate mutation that is phoenix. At one point he's cowering on his knees. Thats it really its over.
Not jumping on any bandwagon, fanboy. I just knew some funny sh!t claims are going to be made by you in a thread involving Phoenix. I dropped by to get some laughs from your dillusional posts.
As for KGKG and Synchro, I'm giving props where it's deserved. And please, you didn't win anything over me. Hell, you even hid from a thread that direct challenged Phoenix's power over the HOTU.
As for Synchro, have you actually read the thread Beyonder? He got dealt with. He smugly posted quotes from his Lucifer comics thinking that was the end of it, only for me to go on to explain to him what was actually happening in his comics. Read the whole thread. He hasnt been back for days. Seen and dismissed.
No, Synchro just got tired of your endless assumptions and kaballah references. You didn't explain anything, you bored him to death.
You know i still got luv for u 2 B. I miss those lil tutoring sessions i used to give you. Im just working out some rates for the new semester i'll keep u posted.
I'll call Batman - your being dillusional again. And your in luck! Arkam has one more room left for you.
Originally posted by Beyonder
Not jumping on any bandwagon, fanboy. I just knew some funny sh!t claims are going to be made by you in a thread involving Phoenix. I dropped by to get some laughs from your dillusional posts.As for KGKG and Synchro, I'm giving props where it's deserved. And please, you didn't win anything over me. Hell, you even hid from a thread that direct challenged Phoenix's power over the HOTU.
No, Synchro just got tired of your endless assumptions and kaballah references. You didn't explain anything, you bored him to death.
I'll call Batman - your being dillusional again. And your in luck! Arkam has one more room left for you.
OUCH! He went there alright
Well, Kronus, one of the guardians of the Universe, gave it to Galactus, and there's a whole race of these guys, and their army in The Corp. The Spectre could simply will them to not exist like he did in his own series [as Hal Jordan] to Darkseid. Then there's tons of other guys outside that... like Darkseid himself for example. Superman. Phantom Stranger. Shazzam.
Ahhhh you boys have been busy in my absence i see. Well im back now to enlighten all. KG, repeatedly i have asked you to show the appropriate scans from Xmen Forever yet you have always changed the subject or have been selective in what scans you have actually posted.
Ive already said all i need to. Therfore i shall merely quote my words of wisdom and post along with them the scans you for some reason or the other didnt want to post.
Xmen forever talks of how humanity will sometime in the future evolve into higher beings who will surpass and in turn replace the abstracts. This higher state of being, this final stage of evolution is phoenix. When humanity has evolved to this point, creation is brought to an end by phoenix and everything dissolves into the white hot room. Creation is then begun anew by Phoenix so the process begins again. At this point of ultimate mutation beings gain telekinetic godhood. Their consciousness permeates all matter, reality, time and space and they control these things down to the molecular level. It is the ultimate power. In the picture below Jean displays her telekinetic godhood. Xavier devises a test for Jean after recent dramatic increases in her power. He tells her to levitate a dinner set, she laughs and calls this “beginners telekinesis”, but she misunderstood. He touches one of the forks and to her disbelief finds that she can feel his pulse. He tells her telekinetic sensitivity that extreme is known by the Shi’ar as manifestation of the phoenix. Her consciousness permeates all: