Originally posted by Superboy Prime
By the way when has Goku taken energy from non sentient life/sentient life without it being used for a Spirit Bomb?
he hasn't... but I never said nor implyed he's done it for anything else...
Originally posted by JustOwnin
jinzin> Holy shit! I didn't know Goku can do all of that! About the Goku-post dragonball absorption form, didn't he reach that at the very end of the series? if so nobody really knows how powerful he really is, right? 😕
true and true...
At first I thought Superman would win because he's just........Superman 😮 (not really into superman or dragon ball z) but now I am not sure. Believe it or not I have read every god damn post in this thread! Some posters made good arguments some sounded like they were just full of shit; well just most of the superman "fan boys".
There are alot of shit in this thread! God damn, i haven't read such ignorant, childish and blunt replies in my life! (on Goku's side and Superman's side but mostly Superman's) I think i now hate Superman because of what most of the members that were supporting Superman have posted. 🙁 I really thought this one post was pretty good. (wouldn't know much so..) and that one post quote post Jinzin posted not too long ago!
Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
try reading dvamp...I'll repeat myself... Goku would die in a black hole.
Superman it has been said would lose his powers if he returned to krypton, Cause krypton has a greater gravity then earth... at 50/100 times... Goku trains in areans with gravity higher then that... At one point vegeta is trainning at x1000. Supes shouldn't survive a black hole..
But DC like to give stupid feats... so they say a black hole is a portal... and that it doesn't have infinate mass/gravity in the DC world...
But supes fans treat it like it actually has infinate mass/gravity
Originally posted by bean_machineso superman is intangible in every demension including the 3rd which you and I share, and can do this technique for indefinite periods of time?
Being intangible doesn't mean being in another dimension.
cause that's exactly what he needs to do in order for this ridiculous intagibility claim you guys keep regurgitating to matter... fact is superman as never been able to do this indefinitely and there's no guarantee even that he can simply faze through an attack by goku... remember some dbz attacks are specified towards a persons particular energy..
Originally posted by bean_machine
When a DB character wants to make an attack of great magnitude they take forever to power up.
nappa took out a city by lifting his two fingers
vegeta used his galic gun in about 15 seconds which would have blown up the earth
frieza blew up plenet vegeta with a deathball that he created in 5 seconds
sure they take time to power up in order to fight eachother perhaps.. but in order to cause attacks of great magnitude? no... no.. hell no...
Originally posted by bean_machine
Supes can speedblitz before Goku can even think.
Bullshit... in the saiyan saga characters where fast enough to be inpercievable to superhumans even to their trained eye... in the frieza saga burta is TIMES faster than even stronger DB-senshi can precieve... and regular goku STILL trumps burta when he shows up in spite of burta's speed...
Superman's movements would have to be beyond instantanious for him to successfully speedblitz a guy like goku who can react to I.T. attacks.... superman is not faster then I.T. nowhere near infact... so how then is he going to speedblitz goku when a badguy using I.T. couldn't?
Originally posted by jinzin
who said i was talking about spirit bomb? ;confused: and again.. when hasn't goku been able to take other people's energy? the consent of the people giving it to him is amoot point since he can draw on it from non sentient life as well....
And again goku can not take anyone's energy, they have to give it to him. prove that he can take it.
Originally posted by jinzin
I don't remember the actual stated number.. so what? it's still times the speed of light... dozens of times according to bulma's calulations...
Give us a number, that's not evidence.
Originally posted by jinzin
oh no, just accross galaxies, and solar systems, and the universe, and other demensional plains of existance... 🙄
when he was on kiao shinslanet he could not IT to namek it was too far.
Originally posted by jinzin
sure just write of everything you don't like as PIS... it just goes to show how much you're reaching... how you THINK he SHOULD be presented and how he actually is are two entirely different things.. in h2h goku punks supes...and goku can powerup in a few minutes of the z-senshi gives him power.. what's your point? that STILL doesn't mean that PC superman exists right now so.....
Superman can always sundipp and reach his prime ever heard of superman prime and superman not being to beat goku in h2h is PIS he has 1000 yrs of exp.
having incredible strength to punch with and fighting h2h are totally different things. Supes is strong. IF he fought a Muhammad Ali at his prime Supes would win, not because he's such a good h2h fighter but because he's strong. IF you depower him to normal standards he would get the tar beat out of him. Because he is not good at h2h. You don't need to know martial arts when you can bench press tons.
Originally posted by theobvious
having incredible strength to punch with and fighting h2h are totally different things. Supes is strong. IF he fought a Muhammad Ali at his prime Supes would win, not because he's such a good h2h fighter but because he's strong. IF you depower him to normal standards he would get the tar beat out of him. Because he is not good at h2h. You don't need to know martial arts when you can bench press tons.
Supes has 1000 yrs of MA training and he can't own ali, something about that logic seems flawed.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
And again goku can not take anyone's energy, they have to give it to him. prove that he can take it.
orrrr we could just go the nonsentient way.. goku made a spirit bomb using nearly completely non sentient life in his fight with frieza... there proven...
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Give us a number, that's not evidence.
sure it is, the number was posted by another member which I already quoted.. it is evidence your ignoring the fact doesn't mean the fact doesn't count...
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
when he was on kiao shinslanet he could not IT to namek it was too far.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneyeah superman prime took that sundip for well over a hundred years bukko... so again.. SO WHAT?
Superman can always sundipp and reach his prime ever heard of superman prime and superman not being to beat goku in h2h is PIS he has 1000 yrs of exp.
are you aware that superman is not 1,000 years old? 😕
Originally posted by Superman_045physically stronger doesn't dictate a win..
Goku isn't physically stronger than Superman & Superman is still faster than Goku's Instant Transmission so there's no way for Goku to win.
captain atom messed superman up something ugly and it wasn't using brute force.. it was using energy blasts.. like goku's....
and no superman is not faster than I.T. this was already proven....
at this point I'd like to adress the fact that HE-MAN, a guy with ONLY superstrength going for him really, no super speed or anything to speak of almost killed pre-crisis supes.. yet your argument is that goku is slower than normal supes or can't touch him or something?
pfffft.. riiiight.