Thor vs. Hulk

Originally posted by Master Court
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After a gruelling fight, mind you. Thor had even hit Hulk with lightning earlier in the Annual fight several pages before the KO lightning, and all it did was briefly put Hulk on his knees.

In any case, Thor should always win against Hulk. Yeah, Hulk's overall stronger, but Thor's got all that power and skill, and he's just as determined as Hulk to prove his superiority. I'd vote Thor to beat anyone. I mean, I use to say Hulk would win, but then I kinda thought about it. Thor's the greatest warrior ever. And with the magic and everything, the remote control uber hammer Mjolnir, godly strength, weather powers and sh*t. Thor should beat anyone, even if someone gives him a good fight.

Hulk taking all these hammer shots when Masterson almost killed Glads and Thor put down a futuristic Glads in a few blows.

Originally posted by h1a8
This is not Thor vs. Superman.
Thor wouldn't touch Superman. Superman would combo him to ko everytime.

But Thor's hammer has been knocked from him plenty of times leaving him a sitting duck. Thor may win this battle but it wouldn't be easy for him due to CIS.

Thor is more powerful than superman also.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor has the reflexes and skills to definitely tag Superman.

Thor is more powerful than superman also.

stfu about superman seriously

Originally posted by American Dragon
Thor is more likely to beat Superman because of Superman's weakness to magic. If Thor didn't have his hammer Thor would lose. Hulk has clashed with Superman before and has never beat him. Hulk would give Superman a good fight but in the end Superman would win. Thor would beat Savage Hulk because of his hammer but I think he would lose to World War Hulk and maybe the smart Hulk.

Well, the cross-over fights are non-canon, but the Hulk/Superman fights were pretty fair. Superman's just too fast, too many powers. I imagine a Hulk/Superman fight being similar to Hulk/Thor fights, but taking a bit longer as Superman doesn't have the hammer, lightning, and ages of combat experience. I'd be happy to call the Hulk/Superman fights canon, but haters would get their panties in a bunch. The fights play up both characters really well, with Superman winning in Superman fasion, while Superman noting that Hulk's "tougher than anyone he's ever faced" and that it took everything Superman had to drop Hulk. The problem the haters would have is the implications that Hulk, according to Superman, is tougher and stronger than most of Superman's villains, which haters wouldn't accept. And the Superman haters and Hulk fanboys come up with too many reasons why Hulk should be able to beat Superman with ABC logic and power rundowns like it's a trading card battle game.

WWHulk, based on the Sentry fight, should be able to handle Thor or Superman alone, after a gruelling fight, but Savage Hulk should lose to both. The smart Prof Hulk kinda has a power-cap, and he's too civilized to beat Thor. Except when Prof goes nuts and kinda Savagey. But he's still not as overall powerful as Savage Hulk.

If Odin allowed Thor to be without the hammer, I think he still stands a good chance against Superman. Afterall, Thor still has unbelievable strength and has taken some pretty nasty shots before. And as I recall, Thor merely uses the hammer to focus his powers. He should be able to do a thing or two without it, right? I'm not sure on that one. I haven't really seen Thor without the hammer, except for when he's scrambling for it when he drops it. But he should definitely take a majority over Supes if the hammer is in play.

In any case, I basically agree with you. I was just elaborating on my thoughts... Now, my next thought... If you spin an oriental person in a circle eight times, do they become dis-oriental?

Originally posted by Master Court
Well, the cross-over fights are non-canon, but the Hulk/Superman fights were pretty fair. Superman's just too fast, too many powers. I imagine a Hulk/Superman fight being similar to Hulk/Thor fights, but taking a bit longer as Superman doesn't have the hammer, lightning, and ages of combat experience. I'd be happy to call the Hulk/Superman fights canon, but haters would get their panties in a bunch. The fights play up both characters really well, with Superman winning in Superman fasion, while Superman noting that Hulk's "tougher than anyone he's ever faced" and that it took everything Superman had to drop Hulk. The problem the haters would have is the implications that Hulk, according to Superman, is tougher and stronger than most of Superman's villains, which haters wouldn't accept. And the Superman haters and Hulk fanboys come up with too many reasons why Hulk should be able to beat Superman with ABC logic and power rundowns like it's a trading card battle game.

WWHulk, based on the Sentry fight, should be able to handle Thor or Superman alone, after a gruelling fight, but Savage Hulk should lose to both. The smart Prof Hulk kinda has a power-cap, and he's too civilized to beat Thor. Except when Prof goes nuts and kinda Savagey. But he's still not as overall powerful as Savage Hulk.

If Odin allowed Thor to be without the hammer, I think he still stands a good chance against Superman. Afterall, Thor still has unbelievable strength and has taken some pretty nasty shots before. And as I recall, Thor merely uses the hammer to focus his powers. He should be able to do a thing or two without it, right? I'm not sure on that one. I haven't really seen Thor without the hammer, except for when he's scrambling for it when he drops it. But he should definitely take a majority over Supes if the hammer is in play.

In any case, I basically agree with you. I was just elaborating on my thoughts... Now, my next thought... If you spin an oriental person in a circle eight times, do they become dis-oriental?

Superman could bfr Hulk or Thor without his hammer in a nanosecond. This is a no fight for him.

If Thor has his hammer then Superman wins 10/10 very very easily. He just combos Thor to ko before Thor can properly defend himself. Superman can even play with Thor if he wanted after knocking his hammer away. Superman can smack him around like he's his property. Remember these are forum fights and comic ones. This isn't "who will win if they fought in a comic" but "who would win if they fought in reality".

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman could bfr Hulk or Thor without his hammer in a nanosecond. This is a no fight for him.

If Thor has his hammer then Superman wins 10/10 very very easily. He just combos Thor to ko before Thor can properly defend himself. Superman can even play with Thor if he wanted after knocking his hammer away. Superman can smack him around like he's his property. Remember these are forum fights and comic ones. This isn't "who will win if they fought in a comic" but "who would win if they fought in reality".

....I don't even know where to begin with this. Superman taking 10/10 against Thor with his hammer? Hell, if you argued he took a majority, while I would disagree, I'd accept that as plausible as a valid opinion. But 10/10? WTF?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
....I don't even know where to begin with this. Superman taking 10/10 against Thor with his hammer? Hell, if you argued he took a majority, while I would disagree, I'd accept that as plausible as a valid opinion. But 10/10? WTF?

H2H Thor 6/10

All out Thor wins by stompage.

Originally posted by The Nuul
H2H Thor 6/10

All out Thor wins by stompage.

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Originally posted by h1a8
Superman could bfr Hulk or Thor without his hammer in a nanosecond. This is a no fight for him.

BFR Hulk? Yes. Any Hulk? Yes. To what ends? Dunno. Hulk can survive in space, can breathe underwater, immune to temperatures, and the best HF there is. And if Hulk is still on Earth, he can return to the battlefield in minutes. Beat Hulk? Sure. A majority, even. Any Hulk? Any under WWHulk, sure. Below WWHulk, Supes takes the majority. WWHulk takes the majority. Besides, if Supes BFR's Hulk to space, then he'd have to deal with WWHulk. Even if he can BFR him again, Supes still has to suffer the fact that the damage WWHulk causes is on his(Supes) hands.

BFR Thor? No. Thor can fly, and is just as tough as Superman. And no matter where Superman chucks him, Thor can create a portal right back to the fight. Beat Thor? No. Thor is thousands of years old, most spent fighting. Immortal, godly strength, magic powers, hyperspeed, phenominal fighting skills, and warrior madness.

If Thor has his hammer then Superman wins 10/10 very very easily. He just combos Thor to ko before Thor can properly defend himself. Superman can even play with Thor if he wanted after knocking his hammer away. Superman can smack him around like he's his property. Remember these are forum fights and comic ones. This isn't "who will win if they fought in a comic" but "who would win if they fought in reality".

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Originally posted by h1a8
It takes more than reflexes to tag Superman. It takes speed. Thor doesn't have the reflexes nor the speed to hit Superman even if Superman didn't attack. Superman can vibrate or evade any attack made by Thor. If Superman did attack then Thor wouldn't get a chance to defend properly. The combo to ko will pursue and it will be all she wrote.

No, he can't. They already fought once and Thor tagged him just fine. Using his vibration feats against DD for any matchup is another sign of extreme bias.

Originally posted by Master Court
BFR Hulk? Yes. Any Hulk? Yes. To what ends? Dunno. Hulk can survive in space, can breathe underwater, immune to temperatures, and the best HF there is. And if Hulk is still on Earth, he can return to the battlefield in minutes. Beat Hulk? Sure. A majority, even. Any Hulk? Any under WWHulk, sure. Below WWHulk, Supes takes the majority. WWHulk takes the majority. Besides, if Supes BFR's Hulk to space, then he'd have to deal with WWHulk. Even if he can BFR him again, Supes still has to suffer the fact that the damage WWHulk causes is on his(Supes) hands.

BFR Thor? No. Thor can fly, and is just as tough as Superman. And no matter where Superman chucks him, Thor can create a portal right back to the fight. Beat Thor? No. Thor is thousands of years old, most spent fighting. Immortal, godly strength, magic powers, hyperspeed, phenominal fighting skills, and warrior madness.

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Do you understand the combo to ko principle?

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman wouldn't win 10/10 in a comic of course.
Just imagine these characters existing in real life. Superman with his instant speed can bombard Thor in a combo everytime. Also Superman can simply knock his hammer away if he wants.

Thor can will the hammer back to him, and it's more likely Superman will get it in the head before he could even try to knock it away.
Thor can set up a perfect defense by whirling his hammer, something that Superman at his fastest couldn't get through. And Thor can hit him with his magic lighting from anywhere - unlike Captain Marvel, he doesn't have to jump away from it.

Originally posted by h1a8
BFR is a win? A character only has a few minutes to make it back. Doesn't matter if they die or not. These are forum rules. Superman can casually throw or uppercut Hulk or Thor (without his hammer) into space. Thor can't fly without his hammer.

Do you understand the combo to ko principle?

Originally posted by h1a8
BFR is a win? A character only has a few minutes to make it back. Doesn't matter if they die or not. These are forum rules. Superman can casually throw or uppercut Hulk or Thor (without his hammer) into space. Thor can't fly without his hammer.

Do you understand the combo to ko principle?

If we're talking BFR victory, Thor can teleport Superman a helluva lot easier than Superman can physically knock Thor away from him and make it stick long enough to constitute as a victory.

Originally posted by roughrider
Thor can will the hammer back to him, and it's more likely Superman will get it in the head before he could even try to knock it away.
Thor can set up a perfect defense by whirling his hammer, something that Superman at his fastest couldn't get through. And Thor can hit him with his magic lighting from anywhere - unlike Captain Marvel, he doesn't have to jump away from it.

He can't will his hammer back if he is getting the fook comboed outta him.

What perfect defense? The whirling hammer would only cover a small portion of his being. Superman can pop him from behind, legs, above his head, etc. Superman can even pop him before he can even whirl the hammer. Lightning will appear in slow motion to Supes. Even if Supes gives Thor the first moment to attack (to see what hes got) Thor could never hit Supes.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
If we're talking BFR victory, Thor can teleport Superman a helluva lot easier than Superman can physically knock Thor away from him and make it stick long enough to constitute as a victory.

What are you talking about? We were discussing Superman against Thor without a hammer.

With a hammer, Superman will simply combo Thor to ko before Thor can properly defend himself.

Marvel vs Marvel turns into Marvel vs Superman

This is what all debates boil down to

Originally posted by h1a8
What are you talking about? We were discussing Superman against Thor without a hammer.

With a hammer, Superman will simply combo Thor to ko before Thor can properly defend himself.

I thought it was Hulk vs. Thor ... Umm, anyway Thor has to swing his hammer atleast few seconds before a portal is created. He is dead before that ...

Originally posted by h1a8
He can't will his hammer back if he is getting the fook comboed outta him.

What perfect defense? The whirling hammer would only cover a small portion of his being. Superman can pop him from behind, legs, above his head, etc. Superman can even pop him before he can even whirl the hammer. Lightning will appear in slow motion to Supes. Even if Supes gives Thor the first moment to attack (to see what hes got) Thor could never hit Supes.