Thor vs. Hulk

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Im not sure what your getting at? I know ever body has there bad moments, but every time someone brings up something about how Hulk has been defeated, killed etc, you holler PIS. Yet you find it rather easy to bring scans or moments of other characters bad moments into these arguments. How is anyone ever suppose to bring an argument against you if you label everything we bring against him as PIS?
about that.

I'm just bringing up that every one has bad showings as well as good showings. If Hulk is beaten by Namor, it doesn't disprove him having unlimited strength at all.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Yes true, I know Juggernaut has been hurt, but he has to be in order to deliver a good and entertaining comic. If Juggernaut was written to his full potential in every comic he appeared in the comic in no way would that comic be entertaining. How good would a comic be if the villain won the battle every time? he would have killed the X-Men, Hulk, Generation X, X Factor, Thor, Spiderman, The Thing, etc. Do you find the death of many great Marvel hero's to be entertaining? I don't think so, and thats why Marvel can't write Juggernaut to his full power. It's kind of like how Galactus has failed to eat earth, or hoe Spider Man defeated Fire Lord. I have accepted this, and I understand that Juggernaut can't be written to the fullest.

Of course Hulk can't be written to use his asteroid-shattering, celestial-fighting strength when he fights Spider-Man or Wolverine. Otherwise, he'd kill them.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Now Hulk and Juggernaut are in two different situations, it's really hard to compare there comics. Juggernaut is the villain so he has to lose some how in every comic he appears in. Whether he walks into some cement, or his helmet somehow is taken off for the tk attack. Yet even being the villain Cain still has his feats even when not written to his full power set. Hulk is over written for his power set, and yet he still manages to be knocked around by about every character on the block. It really makes no since how Hulk has been ko'd more times than you and I can count yet you still call the times when he has been ko'd PIS. How can a situation be PIS when it happens on a regular bases?

Do you think Spider-man knocking him out is logical when Class 100 character have had trouble taking him down on countless occasions?

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Hulk's unlimited strength is not the same as Juggernauts or Supermans. Hulks strength is solely based on how much stress he feels, which has a limit. Supermans power comes from the rays of the sun, it's not solely dependent on himself. Juggernaut is empowered by a god who from feats is on par with Galactus and eternity, his power isn't solely dependent on himself.

If Hulk is struggling to pull off a strength feat, obviously his stress and anger will continue to go up until he accomplishes his task. THAT'S unlimited strength.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
That bio did go against what you said. You stated that the Hulk had unlimited durability, yet the bio said he is only highly resistant to harm. How do you not see the difference. Highly resistant doesn't equal unlimited durability.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Lets say Mindless Hulk doesn't have a limit to his strength, Savage Hulk does. Mindless Hulk was only that strong because his mind had been wiped of all memories and feelings. Savage Hulk cannot do that, thus he can't reach that lv of rage.

Mindless Hulk has done nothing Savage Hulk didn't show he couldn't do. Just because he felt nothing but rage doesn't make Mindless any more powerful than Savage.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
You can believe that Hulk has unlimited stamina if you want.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
So Hulk doesn't need to breathe now?

Originally posted by Soujaboy
In comics Hulk isn't what your making him to be. Your making Hulk out to be some kind of god. You have stated that Hulk has unlimited strength, durability, stamina, can breathe in space, can't be killed, and is immortal. Hulk really hasn't shown any of these in comics. How enraged do you have to be to not get ko'd by Spiderman? I have yet to see Hulk be the Supreme god you make him out to be.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
How did the Handbook not contradict what you said?

You said Hulk has unlimited strength, the handbook said he has the potential for unlimited strength.

You said Hulk has unlimited durability, the handbook said he's highly resistant to injury.

You said that Hulk had unlimited stamina, the handbook said nothing about that.

You said Hulk can't die, the handbook said nothing of that.

You said Hulk is immortal, the handbook said nothing of that.

How is the handbook not contradicting what you said?

It stated he's highly resistant, but what you need to realize is that this doesn't limit Hulk. It doesn't imply that Hulk's durability is limited. Hulk's durability has been shown ON PANEL to increase with his rage on more than one occasion and it's been stated by the two handbooks I quoted to be unlimited.

His unlimited stamina has also been stated ON PANEL and in the handbooks I brought up. just because it's not mentioned in the one you brought up, that automatically means it doesn't exist? 🤨

I never said Hulk couldn't die. I just said he's VERY DIFFICULT to kill, especially physically which I have also proved with scans.

Hulk isn't immortal is the same sense as Lobo or Deadpool, but when one has unlimited stamina and unlimited rage and can keep fighting as long as he's enraged, well...

Originally posted by Soujaboy
I have already proved that Hulk has that same limit to rage, and adrenalin any normal human has this limiting his rage. Unless you want to say the Hulk has some uber brain now.

Bruce Banner's subconscious was portrayed like the Crossroads, a dimension with endless roads that stretch out endlessly. His mind was an endless world, meaning plenty of room for rage to grow. I don't know if this is how any comic book character's brain would be portrayed if they also explored thier own mind, but it was definitely how Banner's was portrayed.

Just once, prove your statement that Hulk's rage is limited.

Again, you're only being close-minded because you don't like Hulk so you're just accepting what you want to accept. I provided evidence in the form of scans from comics and quotes from two handbooks and all you have to argue with is a vague handbook description. You even stated that you chose to go by scans over handbook quotes.

Sorry, but scans and two handbook quotes (my proof) >>>>>>>>>> single, vague handbook description (your proof).

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Don't you enjoy these threads so much more than CBR's 😄

How do you get angrier quicker if your mindless? In fact, how do you get any more mindlessly enraged than mindlessly enraged? It's just a question that I would like someone to answer.

I don't think I stated that Hulk's stress would kill him, so I can't address that part of your post.

These rules are basically the same as CBR's, there is also a rules thread.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Don't you enjoy these threads so much more than CBR's 😄

How do you get angrier quicker if your mindless? In fact, how do you get any more mindlessly enraged than mindlessly enraged? It's just a question that I would like someone to answer.

I don't think I stated that Hulk's stress would kill him, so I can't address that part of your post.

These rules are basically the same as CBR's, there is also a rules thread.

If this is the same as CBR then handbooks aren't allowed, High End Feats mean far more than Low End feats which are generally ignored, and ABC Logic isn't allowed.

I'd like to know what limits the Human brain in it's adrenialine production? What limits a Humans rage?

maybe the stress being to much to handle. i think that a persons will and mind have a breaking point, and that is the limit of human's rage.

Hulk: the incredible guide quote:

"Armed with his enchanted Uru hammer, Thor is one of the few super heroes who can equal the raw power of the Hulk."

Originally posted by Accel
Please show me where I screamed PIS at every thing bad that's ever happened to Hulk.

I'm just bringing up that every one has bad showings as well as good showings. If Hulk is beaten by Namor, it doesn't disprove him having unlimited strength at all.

Hulk often faces the same stuff. He's not even really a hero most of the time; just a guy looking out for himself and smashing people he doesn't like. Many times, he comes in to fight the hero when there's nothing else to fro the story. When he's not facing the Leader or Abomination, he's beating on the Fantastic Four, the Avengers, Spider-man, and countless other heroes.

Of course Hulk can't be written to use his asteroid-shattering, celestial-fighting strength when he fights Spider-Man or Wolverine. Otherwise, he'd kill them.

Both Juggs and Hulk have been stopped by just about every one in Marvel and neither has been written to his full potential. Hulk has been beaten down physically before, but he's also shown he can fight uber-level beings like Celestials and Galaxy Master. He's held his own against and/or beaten top-tier guys like Juggernaut, Thor, Hercules, the Super Adaptoid (with the powers of 100 heroes), and various others. how many high-level feats does he have to have for them to even be noticed?

Do you think Spider-man knocking him out is logical when Class 100 character have had trouble taking him down on countless occasions?

Porve it. For God's sakes, just prove Hulk's strength is limited. I've provided PROOF that your claims are false and that Hulk has unlimited rage so why are you still claiming this?

If Hulk is struggling to pull off a strength feat, obviously his stress and anger will continue to go up until he accomplishes his task. THAT'S unlimited strength.

The bio didn't limit him to only being highly resistant to injury. It didn't say he COULDN'T increase his durability. his comics, however, do say that he can increase his durability.

We've covered that Hulk's strength is not limited to his rage. He also has increasing stress levels, depending on the severity of the situation.

Mindless Hulk has done nothing Savage Hulk didn't show he couldn't do. Just because he felt nothing but rage doesn't make Mindless any more powerful than Savage.

I've proved this several times with scans and handbook quotes. I don't see why it's so hard to comprehend.

Again, what does this have to with any thing? It doesn't have any thing to with unlimited stamina.

How am I hyping him up? You asked for proof that he: has unlimited strength, durability, and stamina, is very hard to kill, and has unlimited rage, and I provided that proof. In the comics, as I have shown you with scans, Hulk IS shown to have these capabilities. You don't have to like them, but they're there.

The handbook IMPLIED that Hulk's strength is unlimited and I have proved that statement right with scans.

It stated he's highly resistant, but what you need to realize is that this doesn't limit Hulk. It doesn't imply that Hulk's durability is limited. Hulk's durability has been shown ON PANEL to increase with his rage on more than one occasion and it's been stated by the two handbooks I quoted to be unlimited.

His unlimited stamina has also been stated ON PANEL and in the handbooks I brought up. just because it's not mentioned in the one you brought up, that automatically means it doesn't exist? 🤨

I never said Hulk couldn't die. I just said he's VERY DIFFICULT to kill, especially physically which I have also proved with scans.

Hulk isn't immortal is the same sense as Lobo or Deadpool, but when one has unlimited stamina and unlimited rage and can keep fighting as long as he's enraged, well...

You haven't proved any thing. You just say, "Hulk's rage is limited, so his strength is limited." I've proved your statement false with scans and quotes from handbooks, yet you still won't accept it.

Bruce Banner's subconscious was portrayed like the Crossroads, a dimension with endless roads that stretch out endlessly. His mind was an endless world, meaning plenty of room for rage to grow. I don't know if this is how any comic book character's brain would be portrayed if they also explored thier own mind, but it was definitely how Banner's was portrayed.

Just once, prove your statement that Hulk's rage is limited.

Again, you're only being close-minded because you don't like Hulk so you're just accepting what you want to accept. I provided evidence in the form of scans from comics and quotes from two handbooks and all you have to argue with is a vague handbook description. You even stated that you chose to go by scans over handbook quotes.

Sorry, but scans and two handbook quotes (my proof) >>>>>>>>>> single, vague handbook description (your proof).

Go back to the Juggernaut vs Hulk thread, and you yourself will see how many times you screamed PIS. In fact Newjack addressed you on it and told you not to be hypocritical.

It does prove that while enraged he has been ko'd by numerous charters.

How is Hulk not a hero?

You see my point now, that major faces can't permanently be killed. Otherwise Hulk, Spider Man, and Wolverine would all be dead.

When did Hulk fight a Celestial single handedly? It sounds like PIS.

"how many high-level feats does he have to have for them to even be noticed?"

How many times does he have to be knocked out, and beat down before you notice it?

No I can believe that when Spider Man fights Hulk is power is blown out of proportion, just like when Hulk fights people who are Harald and above his power is blown out of proportion. I can admit when characters powers are over exaggerated, can you?

I already have proved that Hulk's strength is limited, you just refuse to accept it so you ignore it. Yes I have been wrong on a few things, yet so have you but I can admit when im wrong.

"If Hulk is struggling to pull off a strength feat, obviously his stress and anger will continue to go up until he accomplishes his task. THAT'S unlimited strength."

Kind of like how he struggled to lift the mountain, I could have swore he couldn't hold it for much longer?

It said Hulk was highly resistant to injury, so how can you just assume he can. It didn't say he couldn't? what kind of logic is that? It didn;t say he couldn't so I assume he can?

It's limited to his stress, particularly rage. Why do you believe that when you post some vague non informative pic and give a flawed argument that we or I should automatically believe you?

Hulk now has unlimited stamina, because he doesn't need to breathe. I was wrong, he has unlimited stamina.

Tell me how Savage hulk can get any more Mindlessly enraged the Mindless Hulk?

No, you said that hulk can regenerate from any attack making him immortal. When you can't die that makes you immortal encase you didn't know.

No Hulk keeps fighting until he gets knocked out, which happens often.

Prove that Hulk's mind is any different than that of a normal humans. If you can't do so than his rage is limited.

Again I will ask why so vague non informative scan, and you quoting some book I can't see automatically makes you right?

Originally posted by Dalak
If this is the same as CBR then handbooks aren't allowed, High End Feats mean far more than Low End feats which are generally ignored, and ABC Logic isn't allowed.

I'd like to know what limits the Human brain in it's adrenialine production? What limits a Humans rage?

Is there also a SvFL rule to? 😕

I have a question for you. Adrenalin increases the human attributes past there normal lv's correct? if the human mind had no limit to the production of adrenalin in the body wouldn't that mean that the human attributes are unlimited?

Originally posted by Accel
Mindlessly enraged just mean he was completely focuses on getting angry and nothing else. It doesn't mean he reached 100% anger.

How can you focus when your mindless?

you don't. he is just an engine of destruction who doesn't know what he's doing. his mind makes him vulnerable.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Is there also a SvFL rule to? 😕

I have a question for you. Adrenalin increases the human attributes past there normal lv's correct? if the human mind had no limit to the production of adrenalin in the body wouldn't that mean that the human attributes are unlimited?

Well I am unsure of the specifics, but from my reading up on Zombies thanks to the Zombie Survival Guide and All Flesh Must Be Eaten (A Zombie RPG) it seems that Guy's explanation in Naruto isn't completely unfounded. There is a physiological limit built in to keep us from tearing the muscles from the bones or otherwise seriously harming ourselves that way. Zombies are able to get more strength from those muscles at first because they don't care about any damage inflicted. Later the minute tears that occur every time we do anything add up and thier strength decreses, but in the short term ZOmbies are stronger than they were as Humans.

That isn't to say that people cant destroy their bodies from overlifting or overexerting themselves to death like any other creature, but I hope you get my point.

Originally posted by UltimateStryfe
you don't. he is just an engine of destruction who doesn't know what he's doing. his mind makes him vulnerable.

I'm assuming you haven't read any of the current comics 🙂

Originally posted by Dalak
Well I am unsure of the specifics, but from my reading up on Zombies thanks to the Zombie Survival Guide and All Flesh Must Be Eaten (A Zombie RPG) it seems that Guy's explanation in Naruto isn't completely unfounded. There is a physiological limit built in to keep us from tearing the muscles from the bones or otherwise seriously harming ourselves that way. Zombies are able to get more strength from those muscles at first because they don't care about any damage inflicted. Later the minute tears that occur every time we do anything add up and thier strength decreses, but in the short term ZOmbies are stronger than they were as Humans.

That isn't to say that people cant destroy their bodies from overlifting or overexerting themselves to death like any other creature, but I hope you get my point.

I think you were trying to say that are minds put a limit on what we can do so we don't hurt ourselves.

Originally posted by Dalak
I'm assuming you haven't read any of the current comics 🙂

He now knows what he's doing, but he became weaker in the process.

you are correct. i am old school hulk.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
I think you were trying to say that are minds put a limit on what we can do so we don't hurt ourselves.

Agreed. Now why do you think a body that has been able to draw so much matter and energy from nowhere, adapt to resist massive pressure and lack of pressure, adapt to no longer having to even breathe, wouldn't realize that the healing factor it has will prevent any damage it's own strength causes. With the Durability increase that comes with the Strength increase that would mean that the point in which his body would start tearing itself would become even higher above what he become.

Like teh DOnkey and a Carrot, one constantly before the other.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
He now knows what he's doing, but he became weaker in the process.

The reason he is currently weaker is because of the Wormhole. The Current Hulk is more true of a blending of Bruces personalities than the Professor dreamed he was. And this time it's not an intentionally made one.

I'm expecting Planet Hulk to loop back into Civil War at the end and he will fall upon the War-Wearied defenders of Earth with a vengeance.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Go back to the Juggernaut vs Hulk thread, and you yourself will see how many times you screamed PIS. In fact Newjack addressed you on it and told you not to be hypocritical.

It does prove that while enraged he has been ko'd by numerous charters.

How is Hulk not a hero?

You see my point now, that major faces can't permanently be killed. Otherwise Hulk, Spider Man, and Wolverine would all be dead.

When did Hulk fight a Celestial single handedly? It sounds like PIS.

"how many high-level feats does he have to have for them to even be noticed?"

How many times does he have to be knocked out, and beat down before you notice it?

No I can believe that when Spider Man fights Hulk is power is blown out of proportion, just like when Hulk fights people who are Harald and above his power is blown out of proportion. I can admit when characters powers are over exaggerated, can you?

I already have proved that Hulk's strength is limited, you just refuse to accept it so you ignore it. Yes I have been wrong on a few things, yet so have you but I can admit when im wrong.

"If Hulk is struggling to pull off a strength feat, obviously his stress and anger will continue to go up until he accomplishes his task. THAT'S unlimited strength."

Kind of like how he struggled to lift the mountain, I could have swore he couldn't hold it for much longer?

It said Hulk was highly resistant to injury, so how can you just assume he can. It didn't say he couldn't? what kind of logic is that? It didn;t say he couldn't so I assume he can?

It's limited to his stress, particularly rage. Why do you believe that when you post some vague non informative pic and give a flawed argument that we or I should automatically believe you?

Hulk now has unlimited stamina, because he doesn't need to breathe. I was wrong, he has unlimited stamina.

Tell me how Savage hulk can get any more Mindlessly enraged the Mindless Hulk?

No, you said that hulk can regenerate from any attack making him immortal. When you can't die that makes you immortal encase you didn't know.

No Hulk keeps fighting until he gets knocked out, which happens often.

Prove that Hulk's mind is any different than that of a normal humans. If you can't do so than his rage is limited.

Again I will ask why so vague non informative scan, and you quoting some book I can't see automatically makes you right?

I never full-out called every bad thing that happened to Hulk PIS. Just when he as beaten by Spider-man or something stupid like that. People wouldn’t stop bringing up Hulk’s poor showings, saying things like, “Hulk was beaten by Namor, so of course he he’ll be knocked out by Juggernaut.” I just brought up Juggernaut’s bad showings to make things fair and show them how sill they were being. Unfortunately, it just resulted in mindless bickering.

Hulk being knocked out doesn’t mean he couldn’t have gotten stronger than his opponent if given the chance. We’ve seen consistently defeat or at least stalemate opponents stronger than Namor or Spider-Man.

When Hulk tries to smash public property and innocent civilians, as well as fight an entire lineup of good guys, he’s not a hero. Not all comic characters who get their comics are really heroes. Hulk doesn’t even care about any one but himself.

Hulk actually has a few factors (unsurpassed healing factor, durability, etc) that allow him to survive all that he’s been through. Him being popular doesn’t mean a thing.

No one dies in comics and stays dead. A character would have to be REALLY unpopular to remain dead. Heck, even Jason Todd came back.

Apparently every thing Hulk does is PIS to you…
http://img37.exs.cx/img37/4475/TheEnd2.jpg

I’ve noticed him being beat down plenty of times. In fact, every one knows of these moments. His lower showings are much more famous than his higher showings. On the other hand, however, every one needs constant reminding about his better showings, especially when some newbies make a big deal that he held a mountain on his back like it was hi greatest strength feat.

Hulk has never won a fight against heralds and the only reason he beats on Thor is because Thor lets his pride get to him and he throws away the hammer. The only true fight of Hulk’s that was blown out pf proportion was his fight against Gladiator, which every one, including Hulk fans, regard as terrible writing. Unlimited strength can’t one logically beat much more versatile characters when they go all out.

You haven’t proved Hulk’s strength was limited. All you showed was him being defeated by Namor and quoting a vague handbook which didn’t even say he didn’t have unlimited strength, but merely implied his strength was unlimited. None of that proves any thing. I provided tons of scans of Marvel regarding Hulk’s unlimited strength on panel and since you prefer scans over handbooks…

I’m not assuming Hulk’s abilities when I PROVIDE PROOF. If a single handbook doesn’t say any thing about a character’s abilities, but other handbooks regard it AND it’s shown consistently in comics, what are you going to believe? That it doesn’t exist just because that one handbook doesn’t state it?

That was Banner Hulk who performed the mountain feat. We’ve already covered him and his faults. Banner with the Hulk’s body is still Banner- a wuss who hides his anger and other emotions.

He’s not limited with his emotional stress and especially not his rage. We know this because it’s been stated IN COMICS on more than one occasion. I’ve even given you a rundown on his mind.

When Banner visited his own subconscious in ‘Incredible Hulk vol 3, # 12’, he met the various incarnations of the Hulk. His mind was an endless world shaped like the Crossroads dimension. When he learned of the Guilt Hulk, he found out that every time he had a guilt memory, the Guilt Hulk became stronger. And in a mindless world (Bruce’s mind), naturally there would be no limit to how strong the creature could become. Naturally, this applies to the Savage Hulk incarnation as well dealing with rage. With no limit to the world inside Brice’s subconscious, how can his anger have a limit?

Not every fight ends with Hulk being knocked out. Sometimes it is interrupted, or someone uses something other than brute strength, or team-up, or Hulk wins. Obviously, Hulk’s not going to keep fighting if he’s unconscious, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t have unlimited stamina. Naturally, if he isn’t knocked out and his opponent keeps fighting back with no interruptions to the fight itself and his opponent is just another brawler, then Hulk can keep fighting as long as he’s angry, no matter how long. Others like, say, Thing can’t say the same thing, so they don’t have unlimited stamina.

Savage can’t get more mindless than Mindless. That’s not the point. He CAN however, achieve the same strength levels and feats as Mindless.

Hulk can be killed, just not physically. One could kill him by draining the gamma radiation from him or something. Hulk isn’t immortal; he’s just extremely hard to kill really.

You quoted on handbook that didn’t even say Hulk didn’t have the qualities I said he had. I quoted two handbooks that do state his abilities as I have described them AND I have provided proof with scans. I gave you the exact title, section, and even the page numbers of where to look for these statements to you check them out in case you didn’t believe me. So instead of doubting my credibility:
LOOK. THEM. UP.

Originally posted by Accel
I never full-out called every bad thing that happened to Hulk PIS. Just when he as beaten by Spider-man or something stupid like that. People wouldn’t stop bringing up Hulk’s poor showings, saying things like, “Hulk was beaten by Namor, so of course he he’ll be knocked out by Juggernaut.” I just brought up Juggernaut’s bad showings to make things fair and show them how sill they were being. Unfortunately, it just resulted in mindless bickering.

Hulk being knocked out doesn’t mean he couldn’t have gotten stronger than his opponent if given the chance. We’ve seen consistently defeat or at least stalemate opponents stronger than Namor or Spider-Man.

When Hulk tries to smash public property and innocent civilians, as well as fight an entire lineup of good guys, he’s not a hero. Not all comic characters who get their comics are really heroes. Hulk doesn’t even care about any one but himself.

Hulk actually has a few factors (unsurpassed healing factor, durability, etc) that allow him to survive all that he’s been through. Him being popular doesn’t mean a thing.

No one dies in comics and stays dead. A character would have to be REALLY unpopular to remain dead. Heck, even Jason Todd came back.

Apparently every thing Hulk does is PIS to you…
http://img37.exs.cx/img37/4475/TheEnd2.jpg

I’ve noticed him being beat down plenty of times. In fact, every one knows of these moments. His lower showings are much more famous than his higher showings. On the other hand, however, every one needs constant reminding about his better showings, especially when some newbies make a big deal that he held a mountain on his back like it was hi greatest strength feat.

Hulk has never won a fight against heralds and the only reason he beats on Thor is because Thor lets his pride get to him and he throws away the hammer. The only true fight of Hulk’s that was blown out pf proportion was his fight against Gladiator, which every one, including Hulk fans, regard as terrible writing. Unlimited strength can’t one logically beat much more versatile characters when they go all out.

You haven’t proved Hulk’s strength was limited. All you showed was him being defeated by Namor and quoting a vague handbook which didn’t even say he didn’t have unlimited strength, but merely implied his strength was unlimited. None of that proves any thing. I provided tons of scans of Marvel regarding Hulk’s unlimited strength on panel and since you prefer scans over handbooks…

I’m not assuming Hulk’s abilities when I PROVIDE PROOF. If a single handbook doesn’t say any thing about a character’s abilities, but other handbooks regard it AND it’s shown consistently in comics, what are you going to believe? That it doesn’t exist just because that one handbook doesn’t state it?

That was Banner Hulk who performed the mountain feat. We’ve already covered him and his faults. Banner with the Hulk’s body is still Banner- a wuss who hides his anger and other emotions.

He’s not limited with his emotional stress and especially not his rage. We know this because it’s been stated IN COMICS on more than one occasion. I’ve even given you a rundown on his mind.

When Banner visited his own subconscious in ‘Incredible Hulk vol 3, # 12’, he met the various incarnations of the Hulk. His mind was an endless world shaped like the Crossroads dimension. When he learned of the Guilt Hulk, he found out that every time he had a guilt memory, the Guilt Hulk became stronger. And in a mindless world (Bruce’s mind), naturally there would be no limit to how strong the creature could become. Naturally, this applies to the Savage Hulk incarnation as well dealing with rage. With no limit to the world inside Brice’s subconscious, how can his anger have a limit?

Not every fight ends with Hulk being knocked out. Sometimes it is interrupted, or someone uses something other than brute strength, or team-up, or Hulk wins. Obviously, Hulk’s not going to keep fighting if he’s unconscious, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t have unlimited stamina. Naturally, if he isn’t knocked out and his opponent keeps fighting back with no interruptions to the fight itself and his opponent is just another brawler, then Hulk can keep fighting as long as he’s angry, no matter how long. Others like, say, Thing can’t say the same thing, so they don’t have unlimited stamina.

Savage can’t get more mindless than Mindless. That’s not the point. He CAN however, achieve the same strength levels and feats as Mindless.

Hulk can be killed, just not physically. One could kill him by draining the gamma radiation from him or something. Hulk isn’t immortal; he’s just extremely hard to kill really.

You quoted on handbook that didn’t even say Hulk didn’t have the qualities I said he had. I quoted two handbooks that do state his abilities as I have described them AND I have provided proof with scans. I gave you the exact title, section, and even the page numbers of where to look for these statements to you check them out in case you didn’t believe me. So instead of doubting my credibility:
LOOK. THEM. UP.

If you believe half the bull you spew than you really are a Hulk fanboy.

Hulk can't be killed physically? are you serious? Thor killed him with one arm, but you just call that PIS.

How is his healing factor unsurpassed? Juggernaut has healed from his body being totally incinerated in a few seconds.

Thor threw hi hammer away because the Hulk basically begged him to. Hulk grabbed a woman and told Thor that if he didn't throw his hammer away he was going to smash the woman.

Like I said unless you can prove that the Hulk's mind is any different than that of a normal humans his strength is limited. It's hard to prove anything to a fanboy.

When did it sate in comics that Savage Hulk, not mindless had unlimited stress?

You really do believe that the handbook I posted didn't prove you wrong? thats crazy.

If it makes you sleep better at night you go ahead and believe the things that you post. I can tell you now that other posters in other threads aren't going to go along with it.

I am not sure people can call the fight between Thor and Thing / Hulk to be pis. We dont exactly know what happened as thor said they had been fighting for hours. Who knows what could have happened within that time.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
I am not sure people can call the fight between Thor and Thing / Hulk to be pis. We dont exactly know what happened as thor said they had been fighting for hours. Who knows what could have happened within that time.

It doesn't matter to Hulk fans, if he dies it's PIS.