silver surfer vs energy superman

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
And youre assuming that it would have done it slowly. The reason being because youre on the opposition and you think it helps your case. Which it really doesnt. The blast was still enough to ravage an entire planet and make it a lifeless husk. A good feat of durability for SS. Very good. Accept that and lets move on

True i may be assuming it would have done it slowly. But youre assuming it would have done it quickly so it helps your case as well.

Im not doubting that the blast wasnt powerful. It was a decent display of durability by Surfer.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
If you raed properly i havent assumed once that supes cant hurt SS in a punchup i just said that supes wouldnt be able to take him out easily at all it would be an epic battle because SS is , nigh invulnerable, class 100 and can empower himself further. SS prefers energy battles so if supes and him are having a punchup whats to stop SS from exploiting one of supes many weaknesses at anytime?

Well, we are in agreement that it would be an epic battle...but in the same sense, what makes you think that supes couldnt exploit surfer at the same time and especially make Surfer wear himself out. Supes is a great on his feet tactitian.

Supes can scan surfer as well and find and exploit any weaknesses on the fly.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Surfer was implying that he has basked in a thousand DIFFERENT suns.

Of all the suns hes basked in, that blast was hotter than neither.

I think you need the interpreter CC.

Adding more and more words every post.

You are the one who's assuming everything, and your changing words around to mean what you want them to mean.

Like it or not, jrodslam, Surfer can withstand a planet destroying attack. You may not like how powerful he's been made out to be by his writers (mainly Stan Lee,) but sometimes, we have to accept things that we don't like.

Originally posted by jrodslam
True i may be assuming it would have done it slowly. But youre assuming it would have done it quickly so it helps your case as well.

Im not doubting that the blast wasnt powerful. It was a decent display of durability by Surfer.

The blast lasted for one panel, jrodslam. I'm assuming nothing.

The blast was powerful enough to destroy a planet. It was an tremendous display of durability.

Silver Surfer can easily modulate energy Superman and beat him easily.

His powers are similar to Wonderman

Anyone who is charged with energy SS can take them down pretty easily

He can absorb limitless about of energy

Originally posted by kgkg
Yes SS is so durable that

Wonder man had to charge himself up, not only that the entire Avengers had to attack him, still didn't do much it didn't do much at all.

There are many other times , he takes world destroying attacks when he is battle big guns

Yes Surfer is durable, but kgkg your forgetting that wasp and warbird contained him before that.

When all the avengers were attacking him, you shouldnt say it didnt do much. It did enough to the point that he couldnt even move.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
As an adult, I will express a disrespectful gesture, whether its a smily or you doing something in front of me. The smileys let you know what the gestures are, and you intended to be disrespectful. I addressed you on it. Lets not try to babble our way around it.

Now..lets go to our regular forum.
About Cyborg. You missed the point. He trapped supes in a machine to syphon and disperse his energies. It was made specifically for this, and it failed... Surfer isnt going to do anything different but literally create more problems for himslef if he goes this route. Obviously, I read the comic and you didn't. Cyborg is above reed level in intelligence, can remember every fact, and knows kryptonian technology like the back in his hand...I think he knows more about energy manipulation than surfer.

Dr light was being powered from the worlogog, a device that can alter reality. Supes wasnt destroyed. Matter of fact, he was unharmed.

As for the endurance thing. Supes is known for his endurance...in any form ...and in this form, he can use energy from the environment... including Surfers momentum against him.

I stand by my choice.

Smilies are limited in their ability to convey someones feelings and can either show an emotion too intensely or too little. As a regular forum user id expect you to know and accept that. If i intended to be directly rude to you as well i would have made a statement accompanying that smilie that would have left no doubt in your mind about what my feelings were . Lets get that straight. As it stands i was portaying my restlessness at the fact that despite displaying a list of weaknesses 3 page sago you never once addressed them despite their validity and yet you went on to nitpick at other posters points which didnt really help supes cause in the slightest. My post and the use pf smilies resulted in a response from you therefore i have no regrets with their application.

You have no proof that Cyborg is a better energy manipulator than SS all we know is that he is better at wielding kryptonian technology and any energies or weaponry resulting from it.

Im not doubting the power of the device that Dr light used to disrupt supes , all that im saying is that SS could also disrupt supes and disperse his energies to finish the job off properly.

"""As for the endurance thing. Supes is known for his endurance...in any form ...and in this form, he can use energy from the environment... including Surfers momentum against him. """""""""

SS can do the same and also exploit Supes's other weaknesses you have yet to address.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Yes Surfer is durable, but kgkg your forgetting that wasp and warbird contained him before that.

When all the avengers were attacking him, you shouldnt say it didnt do much. It did enough to the point that he couldnt even move.

Can you get that whole page?

Originally posted by jrodslam
Yes Surfer is durable, but kgkg your forgetting that wasp and warbird contained him before that.

When all the avengers were attacking him, you shouldnt say it didnt do much. It did enough to the point that he couldnt even move.

Energy Supes is full of energy , Silver Surfer kills people that are energy based easily.

Originally posted by kgkg
Silver Surfer can easily modulate energy Superman and beat him easily.

His powers are similar to Wonderman

Anyone who is charged with energy SS can take them down pretty easily

He can absorb limitless about of energy

That may be true in a sence, but Surfer can also be drained.

Question is how much would energy Supes be able to take from him?

Also with Surfer expending his own energy, how long would it take for him to tire out. Who has more endurance?

Those are the questions that need to be asked.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Well, we are in agreement that it would be an epic battle...but in the same sense, what makes you think that supes couldnt exploit surfer at the same time and especially make Surfer wear himself out. Supes is a great on his feet tactitian.

Supes can scan surfer as well and find and exploit any weaknesses on the fly.

We have knowledge of SS's weakness can you tell me how supes is going to exploit them quicker or easier than SS can his. Ss's weakness arent nearly as obvious or abundant and you're also forgetting about SS's cosmic awareness. SS can be cut off from his energy supply by a likewise skilled and high level energy manipulator. Energy supes is neither. He is extremely inexperienced in comparison to SS. That cutting off had happened to SS once despite all of the cosmic beings far greater than him or supes that he'd faced before. Supes isnt skilled enough to achieve the same effect and SS certainly isnt going to let him.

Originally posted by jrodslam
That may be true in a sence, but Surfer can also be drained.

Question is how much would energy Supes be able to take from him?

Also with Surfer expending his own energy, how long would it take for him to tire out. Who has more endurance?

Those are the questions that need to be asked.

My queston is, when has Energy Supes ever drained energy from anyone, much less a cosmic energy manipulator?

Originally posted by kgkg
it was holding him still , it didn't do any damage 🙂

Energy Supes is full of energy , Silver Surfer kills people that are energy based easily.

No it didnt do any damage, but it kept him unable to move and out of battle.

How strong is Energy Supe's blasts? It it possible his is stronger than the Avengers?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Smilies are limited in their ability to convey someones feelings and can either show an emotion too intensely or too little. As a regular forum user id expect you to know and accept that. If i intended to be directly rude to you as well i would have made a statement accompanying that smilie that would have left no doubt in your mind about what my feelings were . Lets get that straight. As it stands i was portaying my restlessness at the fact that despite displaying a list of weaknesses 3 page sago you never once addressed them despite their validity and yet you went on to nitpick at other posters points which didnt really help supes cause in the slightest. My post and the use pf smilies resulted in a response from you therefore i have no regrets with their application.

You have no proof that Cyborg is a better energy manipulator than SS all we know is that he is better at wielding kryptonian technology and any energies or weaponry resulting from it.

Im not doubting the power of the device that Dr light used to disrupt supes , all that im saying is that SS could also disrupt supes and disperse his energies to finish the job off properly.

"""As for the endurance thing. Supes is known for his endurance...in any form ...and in this form, he can use energy from the environment... including Surfers momentum against him. """""""""

SS can do the same and also exploit Supes's other weaknesses you have yet to address.

The weaknesses have been addressed, and countered.
Now, about Cyborg, once again, the machine he used on supes was made specifically to kill him...to syphon and disperse his energy. It did not work. This is one time I wish I hadnt sold my back issues, cause it would be a lot easier to prove this. Anyway....this resulted in creating Supe red and Supes blue. There is no denying this..unless you can explain how supes red and supes blue were created?

How would surfer deal with more and more supermen being created?

Originally posted by jrodslam
That may be true in a sence, but Surfer can also be drained.

Question is how much would energy Supes be able to take from him?

Also with Surfer expending his own energy, how long would it take for him to tire out. Who has more endurance?

Those are the questions that need to be asked.

SS can absorb limitless, Energy supes doesn't come close

Beside not only does SS absorb it he can make Energy supes useless

Silver Surfer manipulates matter at a high level he turns rock into gas , you did what he did to wonderman who is similar to energy supes ( same thing whould happen)

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Can you get that whole page?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
We have knowledge of SS's weakness can you tell me how supes is going to exploit them quicker or easier than SS can his. Ss's weakness arent nearly as obvious or abundant and you're also forgetting about SS's cosmic awareness. SS can be cut off from his energy supply by a likewise skilled and high level energy manipulator. Energy supes is neither. He is extremely inexperienced in comparison to SS. That cutting off had happened to SS once despite all of the cosmic beings far greater than him or supes that he'd faced before. Supes isnt skilled enough to achieve the same effect and SS certainly isnt going to let him.

I know of SS cosmic awareness, Supes simply has a similar power. So they would know each others weaknesses.

A weakness is a weakness...and Supes has the power to exploits surfers as well.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
My queston is, when has Energy Supes ever drained energy from anyone, much less a cosmic energy manipulator?

Could you explain what "cosmic energy" actually is?

If supes has full control of energy, we can assume that he can manipulate this as well.

Originally posted by jrodslam
That may be true in a sence, but Surfer can also be drained.

Question is how much would energy Supes be able to take from him?

Also with Surfer expending his own energy, how long would it take for him to tire out. Who has more endurance?

Those are the questions that need to be asked.

What makes you think endurance is going to be the deciding factor when SS is facing an opponent with so many weaknesses which is cosmic awareness would make glaringly obvious to him.

Supes is known for his lack of endurance in this form in comparison to regular supes. His powers just tire him out more than his traditonal ones do. This problem improved with time , but SS is unlike any other energy supes would have faced by the end of is run. SS is someone who shares all of this incarnations abilities along with more, SS has more experience and is more adept at using those powers. SS is faster. ( Energy supes has to absorb additional energies to fly at beyond light speeds) and SS SS can engage him physically in a punch up and at least hold his own and SS has no real weaknesses that energy supes could exploit.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Could you explain what "cosmic energy" actually is?

If supes has full control of energy, we can assume that he can manipulate this as well.

By 'cosmic,' I mean his level of proficiency, not the type of energy.