4 Reasons Gay Marriage Should Be Legal in the USA!

Originally posted by Leafar
1. According to the US Constitution, all Men are created equal, including gays. They should have the same rights are non-gays.

2. Gay marriage happens everyday in America. What we are really debating is making gay marriage licenses legal. As you read this, two men are getting "married" in a church somewhere in America, and you people in the Red States can't stop it. 😆

3. How the hell does two men getting a marriage license in another state affect my marriage? This is the best example of imposing your moral beliefs on others. I do not care if gay people are allowed to get marriage licenses. It doesn't affect me at all. 😠

4. Finally, I want gay marriage to be legal because it would piss off the Red States. That is reason enough for me.

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Originally posted by Lord Urizen
True Capt Fantastic...

But if you DONT LIKE WOMEN..they you DONT like Women. You can't make youself.

If you DON'T like Men, then you Don't like Men.....you can't MAKE yourself.

I'm bisexual, and although I PREFER women to men, i still like women to a degree. I do get aroused at the site of a gorgeous naked woman, but it does NOT arouse me to the EXTANT that a gorgeous naked man does.

Your not 100% gay, no 1 is. Just like no one is 100% straight.

But your still usually MORE towards one than the other. However, you can't say your 100% gay if you are slightly attracted to women.

I know there are gay people who claim to have been attracted to a woman once or twice, and same for straights in terms of being bi curious....

but I beleive that is all bisexuality.

My best freind Sarah is straight, and she would NEVER mess around with a girl, she gets grossed out by the idea of it.

Originally posted by Capt Fantastic
:I agree 100% That's where my comment on liking a person for who they are, regardless of their gender becomes relevant. I've had male friends that are NOT attractive, but because of their personality, I eventually found them attractive. And it's the same with the straight experiences. I've never met a girl out ot a club and gone home with her. Ever. All those experiences occured after I got to know them and/or dated them for a while. And that was years ago.

If you were ever sexually and romantically attracted to a woman, they you are not gay. You are bisexual.

Sorry bro...you can call yourself Gay all you want, but ur not if this happened.

Your technically "bi"

I don't think I would ever SETTLE down with a woman unless she looked like Carmen Electra or Beyonce ......

However, ultamately i only imagine myself settling down with another man. I LOVE men....more than I do women.

Does that mean I'm gay? Not if i still have the attraction for women. I'm bisexual whether I like it or not.

If you HAVE liked women in a sexual or romantic way, then ur bisexual, not gay.

I can't think of any reason why gay marriage should not be made legal.

The Prime Minister of Australia, John Howard, has threatened to overturn the ACT's decision to allow Civil Unions, saying 'It is marriage, but by another name'. Why call it Civil Union, if it is the same as marriage? Is it in the hope that those opposed to gay marriage will become confused as to it's real meaning?

I don't believe John Howards outburst has anything to do with how he perceives 'marriage'. It isn't a question of whather gays/lesbians should be married, it's a question of, 'Do these people, whom many feel are 'unnatural/abnormal' be afforded the same rights as heterosexual couples'? It's about rights, not marriage.

I believe that gay people deserve to be treated with respect. Respect meaning, equal rights. It is such a shame, when, in this day and age, homosexuality has become readily accepted among the younger generation, but our political leaders can't see beyond what the Marriage Act of 1961 tells them.

Gays/lesbians contribute a great lot to this community. They work hard, pay their taxes, drive, have many friends, yet, even after doing all this, they are disrespected by being treated like second class citizens.

Gays/lesbians are human, too. Having homosexual couples declare their love for each other in a special ceremony won't interfere in your marriare, so what right do you have to complain?

Originally posted by Da preacher
Who cares?It's not like they gonna have Children.

Just because they are a homosexual couple, doesn't mean they won't think about having a child, whether it be through IVF, adoption etc.

Originally posted by Da preacher
If they need marriage as a confirmation of their love then that's sad.

I don't think it is much about confirmation, as such. Marriage is the only way these people can be afforded the same rights as heterosexuals.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
If you HAVE liked women in a sexual or romantic way, then ur bisexual, not gay.

But, you're missing my point. I wasn't sexually attracted to the WOMAN, I was sexually attracted to teh person who possesed that personality. There was little romance involved in my high school relationships...or any one's high school relationships for that matter.

And I might add that those relationships occured based solely on my desire to fit in as a person, not from my desire. If my desires were the deciding factor, then I would have been sleeping with my best friend at the time. (No Burl, it wasn't Juan)

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
no one is 100% straight.

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Originally posted by docb77
Nope, it has to be that person's choice or it would be meaningless.

If you were to ask any gay person whether they chose to be the way they are, they would tell you no. Ask yourself this: Did you choose to be straight? Are you straight because that is what you know you are, or are you straight because it is what you believe to be right?

Originally posted by docb77
I admit that I think homosexuality is disgusting. I do not think that people are disgusting.

Isn't this basically saying the same thing? Homosexuality is discusting, so don't you think that the homosexual themselves is also discusting?

Originally posted by docb77
If anyone is hurt by it it is the person doing it.

Only because society judges them for something which is out of their control.

Originally posted by docb77
Homsexuality doesn't destroy families? Who are you trying to convince? It breaks hearts and destroys families. You can blame religion if you like, but homosexuality is just as much to blame.

What about a family which is torn apart because the man embarked on an affair? Isn't heterosexuality to blame here?

Originally posted by docb77
When a man leaves his wife because he decides that he can't take it anymore because he's gay - that's a family destroyed, sometimes children are even involved.

As sad as it may be, at least this is better than the man staying with a woman he does not, and never has, loved.

Originally posted by docb77
When religious parents learn that a child is "gay" - broken hearts right there. To say nothing of the stigma attached to the gay himself.

Religion needs to accept that people are gay, and that there will always be gay people in this world. People need to love their children no matter what sexuality they are. Do you think a homosexual couple would hate their adopted child if he/she told them they were straight? Of course not.

Originally posted by docb77
Traditional marriages benefit society. The family is what civilization is built on. Children of a traditional marriage have both a primary male and a primary female rolemodel.

What about those families without a male and female role model? What about single parent families? Should pregnant women abort their unborn child because they know they will be forced to raise that child alone? No. Heterosexual couples can be fantastic parents, and wonderful rolemodels, but so could gay couples, if only they were given the chance.

Originally posted by §P0oONY
Legalizing gay marriage will not do any harm... to anyone

All it will do is offend those opposed to it, and that alone is just not a good enough reason to ban it.

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
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Don't worry, I don't think that was a direct challenge to your uber straightness. You are still teh hottest guy the universe has ever know, and the b*tches still fear your manliness.

Marriage is a Christian institution. If you do no adhere to Christianity you would not want to be married. Homosexuals want to get married because they want to be in the public spotlight. Don't tell me differently because I won't believe it. Any self-respecting homosexual would accept a civil union because it has the same benefits as marriage, at least here in Canada. Homosexuals seem to be determined to undermine the beliefs of anyone opposes them for no real good reason that I can think of.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Marriage is a Christian institution. If you do no adhere to Christianity you would not want to be married. Homosexuals want to get married because they want to be in the public spotlight. Don't tell me differently because I won't believe it. Any self-respecting homosexual would accept a civil union because it has the same benefits as marriage, at least here in Canada. Homosexuals seem to be determined to undermine the beliefs of anyone opposes them for no real good reason that I can think of.

I would be happy with Civil Unions, provided it meant that homosexuals were afforded the same rights.

You seem to believe that marriage is not the same as a Civil Union, so tell me, why are religious people opposed to Civil Unions? Is it because they believe Civil Unions are, in fact, marriage by another name, or is it because they do not wish to see homosexuals afforded the same rights as heterosexuals?

Homosexuals wish to be married because they know they will be treated equally. It is not because they wish to be in the spotlight, as you claim.

Many religous people such as myself believe civil unions are wrong because they afford the same rights as marriage without the sanctity of God.
I say let the fags get their tax breaks because no matter what they believe, they will be discriminated against for their sexuality whether or not gay marriage is legalized.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Many religous people such as myself believe civil unions are wrong because they afford the same rights as marriage without the sanctity of God.
I say let the fags get their tax breaks because no matter what they believe, they will be discriminated against for their sexuality whether or not gay marriage is legalized.

Don't homosexuals deserve to be treated with some decency?

And please recognise that religion is a belief, and not everyone shares the belief that God exists. 🙂

Originally posted by Nellinator
Marriage is a Christian institution. If you do no adhere to Christianity you would not want to be married. Homosexuals want to get married because they want to be in the public spotlight. Don't tell me differently because I won't believe it. Any self-respecting homosexual would accept a civil union because it has the same benefits as marriage, at least here in Canada. Homosexuals seem to be determined to undermine the beliefs of anyone opposes them for no real good reason that I can think of.

The institution of marriage has existed longer than Christianity. In fact, for the first 600 years of Christianity, the church wanted nothing to do with marriage which was a secular institution.

Moreover, civil unions in the United States only provide approximately 350 of the 1,400 benefits afforded to married couples. Why should same-sex couples who pay taxes settle for roughly 1/3 when everyone else gets a whole pie?

Furthermore, legalizing same-sex marriage does not affect the religious beliefs of anyone. Religious people will still be free to believe whatever they like about what a marriage is, while the government will be able to provide same-sex couples equal protection under the law.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Many religous people such as myself believe civil unions are wrong because they afford the same rights as marriage without the sanctity of God.

Tax breaks are of no concern. Living as equal individuals is at the heart of the matter. "Christian people" is nothing more than a false trumpet. And, you nulify your perspective the moment you bring reigion in to an argumet that is based in a nation that constitutionaly believes in a seperation of church and state. And, you can puke up all the "the founding fathers were christians" all you like...but they seem to have failed to have written that belief into the governing document. Not very "christian" of them, was it?

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Furthermore, legalizing same-sex marriage does not affect the religious beliefs of anyone.

Which is why I cannot, for the life of me, figure out why so many people complain about it. If it doesn't affect them, what business is it of theirs to complain?

Originally posted by PrincessMary
Which is why I cannot, for the life of me, figure out why so many people complain about it. If it doesn't affect them, what business is it of theirs to complain?

Well, but isn't the reasoning that if they don't work against sin that their God would refuse them?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, but isn't the reasoning that if they don't work against sin that their God would refuse them?

Those who have no religion do not believe in sin. They don't believe homosexuality is a sin, and have no God who would refuse them.

Originally posted by PrincessMary
Those who have no religion do not believe in sin. They don't believe homosexuality is a sin, and have no God who would refuse them.