Dr. Manhattan vs Silver Surfer.

Started by DarkSaint8540 pages
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Matter manip, size alteration, teleportation (although this can be disrupted with tachyon), energy projection and shielding, or Atleast immediate area environment control as shown on mars.

IOW, what Pym does in an average issue of the Avengers......

Originally posted by Reflassshh
Who would win in your opinion?

Me? I am not picking as people aren't being fair on both sides.

Surfer wins

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
Me? I am not picking as people aren't being fair on both sides.
What does that have to do with what you think?

LET'S ALL MOCK BEYONDERGOD FOR AN OPPOSING VIEW!

none

I'm honestly asking.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Does not matter what you think, its cannon fact.

Canon* ...although cannon facts can be quite interesting as well.

The whole mutiversal quantum yadda yadda is speculative on your part, as is what would be required to fully defeat DM. As others are saying, everything about him is implied, with precious few exceptions.

This is why Watchmen shouldn't be in vs. battles.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Matter manip, size alteration, teleportation (although this can be disrupted with tachyon), energy projection and shielding, or Atleast immediate area environment control as shown on mars.

Nothing spectacular

From this i take it you never read Before Watchmen.

He was curing cancer and traveling through time as well as brining the dead back to life.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
No a stalemate would suggest he'd fight evenly. Surfer would beat him for the maj

He didnt back a God. Magneto in Watchman would appear god like, Electro could replace Manhattan and appear godlike. He was the only big fish. Everyone else was nothing. How can u suggest it would take beyonder level power when he's faced nothing

Based off him being merged with the multi versal quantum field. He was a god amongst them but his power was beyond Magnetos.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
From this i take it you never read Before Watchmen.

He was curing cancer and traveling through time as well as brining the dead back to life.

Yea i read it. Carver asked for feats though. Traveling thru time is not impressive feat for himeventshe couldn't change alter the course of events, everything was predetermined. He was nothing more than an observer. Curing cancer haitero applicability in a combascenario so its not worth the mention. YOU sure u want to go feat to feat with surfer? It's spite, take the L.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Yea i read it. Carver asked for feats though. Traveling thru time is not impressive feat for himeventshe couldn't change alter the course of events, everything was predetermined. He was nothing more than an observer. Curing cancer haitero applicability in a combascenario so its not worth the mention. YOU sure u want to go feat to feat with surfer? It's spite, take the L.

Until you can mention a feat that surfer has that can kill an abstract its a stalemate.

Curing cancer and bringing dead back to life are mentionable feats for surfer as they are DM. Quit being bias.

I would really like to know how surfer destroys a multi versal conscious that can project through a avatar.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
LET'S ALL MOCK BEYONDERGOD FOR AN OPPOSING VIEW!

#No****sWasGiven

Originally posted by Reflassshh
What does that have to do with what you think?

I want scans and facts not just "Surfer wins" or "Mr.Manhattan is weak." Like comments.

Mr. Manhattan is weak. Surfer wins.

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This is a stomp, Surfer takes DM out before he can even react.

Based on?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Based on?

Based on overall logic and common sense. Surfer has way better feats then DM. Speed feats especially put him as way faster.

Silver Surfer operates on the same level of power that Doctor Manhattan SHOULD of operated on, but the problem is he didn't actually do much. I'm sure if he had a bunch of appearances and was a character in a universe with a wide variety of super powered beings he would have much better feats, but as it stands..he does not.

Originally posted by Surtur
Based on overall logic and common sense. Surfer has way better feats then DM. Speed feats especially put him as way faster.

Silver Surfer operates on the same level of power that Doctor Manhattan SHOULD of operated on, but the problem is he didn't actually do much.

So how does he actually kill him? That would require multi versal destruction.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Until you can mention a feat that surfer has that can kill an abstract its a stalemate.

Curing cancer and bringing dead back to life are mentionable feats for surfer as they are DM. Quit being bias.

I would really like to know how surfer destroys a multi versal conscious that can project through a avatar.

Curing cancer and bringing back the dead arent relevant in a versus forum match. That's like saying being a good mom and honest Christian will help me win my next mma match. He was not MULTIVERSAL. Let's get that clear. He could only travel between the point of his creation and the future. And every divergent timeline he created earth dies. For all his supposed "omnipotence", he couldn't alter events. He also could only stop about half of the nukes shot by the Soviets to usa. Scrub