Wonder Man is stronger than Thing. Hes closer to Thor level than Ben is.
"supes moved warworld, wonderman had problems holding up half of avengers island in teh acts of vengeance. thor's legend is just as impressive as supes."
Superman didnt moved warworld in his regular levels. And i say this while knowing that you wanted to get the point that both Superman and Thor are above Wonder Man. Wich is true.
And yahman Captain Marvel is there too yeah.
About the difference between Odin/Zeus and Galactus it used to be less years ago but at the time Marvel didnt had created the celestials yet and some others. The Gods wer top dog. Wich isent the case now, there are others above.
The difference? A full powered Galactus wins against any of the two skyfathers alone but its not an easy fight.
Here is your class 100
100 tons + and beyond
savage hulk
hercules
thor
thanos
mangog
silver surfer
gladiator
beta ray bill
Champion of the universe
The runner
Ultimate colossus is around about 40 class = 40 tons Ultimate hulk is stronger at 50 class =50 tons. Ultimate universe is weaker than regular marvel universe. The hulk is one of the strongest beings at 100 class and can exceed it very quickly depending on the battle and who he is fighting.
Originally posted by the Darkone
Here is your class 100
100 tons + and beyond
savage hulk
hercules
thor
thanos
mangog
silver surfer
gladiator
beta ray bill
Champion of the universe
The runnerUltimate colossus is around about 40 class = 40 tons Ultimate hulk is stronger at 50 class =50 tons. Ultimate universe is weaker than regular marvel universe. The hulk is one of the strongest beings at 100 class and can exceed it very quickly depending on the battle and who he is
fighting.
Pfff 40 tons. Yeh whatever??????????? Dude nuclear Submarines weigh at least 10 kilo tons. Speeding trains with momentum weigh about 40 Kilo tons. That's a thousand times more than 40 tons. Ultimtae Sentinnels weigh more than 40 tons and Colossus threw one about 100 feet in the air. Trust me Ultimate colossus is class 100.
Ill admit that everyone on that list is a whole class stronger than Ultimate colossus, E.G. Ultimate colossus has Demi God strength and they all have God strength, but ultimate colossus is class 100 !!!!!!!!!!!!
Trust me 616 colossus is class 100 and the ultimate one would kick his ass. 😎
No they are not in class 100, MArvel universe characters are stronger than ultimate versions except fot two captain america and wolverine. Wizard came out with the power gride about three months age which came from marvel. ultimate hulk lifts 50 tons, Ultimate Thing 40-45 tons, Ultimate colossus 40 tons, Ultimate thor 35, Ultimate ironman 30 tons. Ultimate colossus will lose to mainstream colossus who is 100 class strength. Dude marvel universe characters are stronger than Ultimate universe.
Originally posted by the Darkone
No they are not in class 100, MArvel universe characters are stronger than ultimate versions except fot two captain america and wolverine. Wizard came out with the power gride about three months age which came from marvel. ultimate hulk lifts 50 tons, Ultimate Thing 40-45 tons, Ultimate colossus 40 tons, Ultimate thor 35, Ultimate ironman 30 tons. Ultimate colossus will lose to mainstream colossus who is 100 class strength. Dude marvel universe characters are stronger than Ultimate universe.
Marvel universe colossus is 100 class when he came back. Ultimate colossus is strong in the ultimate universe stronger than ultimate thor. ultimate hulk is the sstrongest,then it's ultimate thing, ultimate colossus and then ultimate thor.
We will find out soon enough when marvel will be coming out with their handbooks of the ultimate universe starting in sept with ultimate fantastic four/spiderman
Originally posted by K3VIL
Wizard power grid is wrong.
You're are talking of nothing, you should read comics of Ultimate universe.
Colossus hold with his arms a Sentinel stopping it while it was falling on a children.
A sentinel alone weight at last 100 tons, add the falling speed, Colossus supported more than 100 tons with his arms.
Ultimate Thing hold a weight of over 40tons and he wasn't even tired, it can't be his limit, he knocked unconscious a Godzilla size monster with 3blows, he's obvious Class 100, at least Class 90.
Ultimate Thor knocked unconscious Ultimate Hulk, with 3blows of Mjolnir, certainly he is in the Class 100 league, tough Hulk can surpass him thanks to his "madder he gets, the stronger he gets".
I'm not saying Ultimate chars are above Classic Marvel ones, but Colossus showed to be above his 616 counterpart, same for Thing, while Thor showed to be under his regular counterpart.
Dude when did Thing lift 40 tons? I know why Wizard posted that unbeliveably stupid cahrt. Its all based on the Thing. His strength level has been given at class 14 because an early edition of ultimate FF4 showed Thing exerting 14 tons per square inch from both hands. What Wizard doesnt realise is that Thing wasn't even trying.
Also (i don't know this for sure ) i think if someone can excert a pressure of 14 tons persquare inch, they can lift far more than 14 tons.This assumption is based on Optimus prime who can excert a pressure of 5 tons per square inch from both hands, yet at the same time he is a class 100 character.
Originally posted by K3VIL
ROTFL, yes Hulk is even stronger than Galactus.
Didn't the Leader stated excessive strenght increase will cause infarct to him?
What does the Leader know? When Hulk destroyed Onslaught, and became stronger than ALL of the Earth heroes (including Thor, Herc, etc.) COMBINED, I didn't see him having any chest pains. 😛
Hulk is potentially stronger than every other Superhero combined.
Hulk is the strongest one there is. 😉
Originally posted by the Darkone
Ultimate fantastic four/spiderman handbook 2005 comes out in September. if anything ultimte colossus/thing/hulk are under class 100.
Mann how irritating are you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just read the Frikin Posts. Oh yeh I forgot Handbooks mean so much more than actual comics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😠
Oh yeh i have a really old hanbook and Thing is class 5 tons. Therefore Thing can only lift five tons. I dont care what anyone says about any example of Thing lifting more than five tons, Thing can only lift five tons OK !! 🙄
Ignorance is bliss,,,,,, eh Dark 1 ?
Ahhhhhhhhh if anyone else mentions that frikin Wizard Chart !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😠 😠 😠