Darth Revan and Darth Malak vs. NJO Luke and Mace Windu

Started by Darth_Janus18 pages

Where does it say that the duel between Malak and Revan wasn't close or "epic"?

Also, I have a problem with your percentile logic there...

Luke = 4/5Anakins Potential

Anakin's Potential = Ultimate (according to whom?)

Now, the argument SHOULD read like this:

If Luke's Full potential = 4/5 of Anakin's Potential AND Anakin's Potential = Better than Ragnos THEN Luke would be around or above Ragnos' level. But since we don't know Ragnos' level (Ragnos = ?) this equation will never solve anything.

I just realized how hard that must be to read. Whoops.

Originally posted by General Zodiac
Luke and Mace would be a good team. Two of the strongest Jedi Masters fighting two of the strongest Sith Lords. In the end I think Luke and Mace would win.

Mace and Windu don't even know eachother while malak and revan are a legendary duo

I think Mace knows Windu just fine 😛 But seeing as I know what you mean and agree with that I won't argue

Originally posted by Darth_Janus
Also, I have a problem with your percentile logic there...

Luke = 4/5Anakins Potential

Anakin's Potential = Ultimate (according to whom?)

Now, the argument SHOULD read like this:

If Luke's Full potential = 4/5 of Anakin's Potential AND Anakin's Potential = Better than Ragnos THEN Luke would be around or above Ragnos' level. But since we don't know Ragnos' level (Ragnos = ?) this equation will never solve anything.

Anakin's potential = ultimate is a statement from Lucas. Well...he said full developed Anakin would be the most powerful force user ever.

Another statement from Lucas is that a full developed Anakin would have been 200 % Sidious.

Now: Children receive at least 50 % of their parents "abilities" (more likely for the same gender it's 75 %). 50 % would make Luke as strong as Sidious. He is obviously stronger so we have to assume he has 75 % of Anakins potential. As we have the statement from Lucas that full developed Anakin would have been the most powerful force user EVER (that includes he would have been more powerful than Ragnos), Luke simply would be more than 75 % of Ragnos.

No, because logically speaking Anakin was 50% force

That would make Luke 25% force because he had a mother that was nothing in the force.

Thats half of Anakin, if what GL says is true then the entire NJO thing should be thrown out and destroyed. You can't really use it as an argument at least not with the one you just made. Its either the one or the other.

And no Luke does not have to be more then 75% of Ragnos maybe Ragnos was 49% force.

End point being, until we see a percentile on Ragnos and Luke, the argument is invalid... Pure speculation.

Originally posted by Darth_Janus
End point being, until we see a percentile on Ragnos and Luke, the argument is invalid... Pure speculation.

Ok ! Ok ! Just ignore that point ! 😮‍💨

lol... No worries. I rather liked being able to defeat that argument. It just took a little reorganizing.

Originally posted by Darth_Janus
That was before Nai Fohl and some others candidly pointed out Luke can Force cloak a planet, mask his shape, kill things that other Jedi can barely touch, and all that pizazz. I grudginly admit NJO Luke is stronger than Revan and his ilk. But hell, if Luke can kill the Vong superslayers XX with one swipe while outnumbered like a thousand to one while his second in command can't aus one, I guess he friggin' beats everything, now doesn't he?

P.S. : Why am I the only person on this board quoted from previous threads?

NJO Luke is powerful and the fight between him and Lord Revan would be insanely close IMO, but Revan wins. Luke could instantly kill a Vong with the Force I've heard, but Kreia did it to dozens of Sith assassins so it's not that unique. Next, the imposter of the Supreme Overlord NEARLY KILLED Luke so no he's hardly invincible and can be beaten.

So luke killed vong, Revan killed jedi and more of them as well as many mandalorians and jedi>vong him being able to kill things other jedi fail at killing just shows that the other jedi are crap, the only reason he kills the vong is because he uses master speed to make him fast enough to hit the weak spot in the vongs armour, Revan was never in a situation in which he had to fight 1000 vong so we can't say he couldn't after all he easily won every fight he was in and I mean easily. Kreia insta killed 3 powerful jedi masters at once and Revan exceeded her so much for that.

Look at it this way

Experience:Revan especially against force users

Combat knowledge:Revan

force knowledge:Revan

speed:Equal

special bonus's:Revans pre-cog owns it.

Saber technique:Revan, more knowledge, more practice won every fight he was in easily at that.

Overall:Revan

Luke killed a bunch of Vong while impressive that hardly makes him godlike, especially considering that Revan's killed more and has fought in many large scale battles which he probably killed hundreds including singlehandedly destroying the sith under malak

Luke>Vong
Revan>Sith

Sith>Vong

Revan would beat NJO Luke,ive read all your arguments but i have to say Luke dosent have enough combative ability in the Force to defeat Revan,he isent as good with a lightsaber either.
And in the qestion of Mace vs Malak,unless you dont know much about either character you would know Mace would win in every scenario because of one thing:Vapaad,any Dark Force attack,especialy lightning Malak would throw at Mace he could just throw it back and coupled with the fact Mace is actualy the better swordsman,Mace would obviously in in the end.

The hell are you talking about? Mace's Vaapad does this, does that, does. . . . squat. Mace's style doesn't- I give up, I'm done. And don't dig up old threads, whoever did.

Yo, retard.

Originally posted by Darth Windu
The hell are you talking about? Mace's Vaapad does this, does that, does. . . . squat. Mace's style doesn't- I give up, I'm done. And don't dig up old threads, whoever did.

Mace's style does you Dumb@$$.
Mace Windu almost destroyed the Dark lord of the Sith,if Anakin haden't stepped in.Mace is a better swordsman than Malak and if Malak threw any Darkside power at Mace,Mace would merely arbsorb it,and redirect it; back into Malak.
Of course on the rare offset this dident work he could merely defeat Malak with his incredible mastery of Form VII: Juyo.
So unless you are as stupid as i think you are about this fact,then you should understand what i mean.

And as for opening this thread again,i thought that folks should know about Mace's ability to kick Malak's ass.

Re: Yo, retard.

Originally posted by Master_Starbuck
Mace's style does you Dumb@$$.
Mace Windu almost destroyed the Dark lord of the Sith,if Anakin haden't stepped in.Mace is a better swordsman than Malak and if Malak threw any Darkside power at Mace,Mace would merely arbsorb it,and redirect it; back into Malak.
Of course on the rare offset this dident work he could merely defeat Malak with his incredible mastery of Form VII: Juyo.
So unless you are as stupid as i think you are about this fact,then you should understand what i mean.

And as for opening this thread again,i thought that folks should know about Mace's ability to kick Malak's ass.

Dude...WTF are you smoking? Your full of absolute shit. Dude get off the crack and stoping posting this bullshit.

Re: Re: Yo, retard.

Originally posted by darthrevan89
Dude...WTF are you smoking? Your full of absolute shit. Dude get off the crack and stoping posting this bullshit.

As least tell him to share.

Originally posted by Master_Starbuck
Revan would beat NJO Luke,ive read all your arguments but i have to say Luke dosent have enough combative ability in the Force to defeat Revan,he isent as good with a lightsaber either.

Hahahahaha....great.

Instakilling people is not enough combative ability in the force ? Great.
Lightsaber skills: Well 3 decades of training with a weapon actualy should make you "good" with it especialy when you receive teaching from guys like Yoda, Obi-Wan, Anakin and a pre-KotoR-times holocron.


And in the qestion of Mace vs Malak,unless you dont know much about either character you would know Mace would win in every scenario because of one thing:Vapaad,any Dark Force attack,especialy lightning Malak would throw at Mace he could just throw it back and coupled with the fact Mace is actualy the better swordsman,Mace would obviously in in the end.

What the f*** ?
Did you see Mace throwing back Sidious lightning in ROTS ? No ! Why not ? Because only Dooku and Yoda could do that. Ups.

Re: Yo, retard.

Originally posted by Master_Starbuck
Mace's style does you Dumb@$$.
Mace Windu almost destroyed the Dark lord of the Sith,if Anakin haden't stepped in.Mace is a better swordsman than Malak and if Malak threw any Darkside power at Mace,Mace would merely arbsorb it,and redirect it; back into Malak.
Of course on the rare offset this dident work he could merely defeat Malak with his incredible mastery of Form VII: Juyo.
So unless you are as stupid as i think you are about this fact,then you should understand what i mean.

And as for opening this thread again,i thought that folks should know about Mace's ability to kick Malak's ass.

Seriously...

STFU!

I guess Mace defeating Sidious makes him better then Revan and Malak...expcet Malak and Revan are better then Sidious.

Re: Yo, retard.

Originally posted by Master_Starbuck
Mace's style does you Dumb@$$.
Mace Windu almost destroyed the Dark lord of the Sith,if Anakin haden't stepped in.Mace is a better swordsman than Malak and if Malak threw any Darkside power at Mace,Mace would merely arbsorb it,and redirect it; back into Malak.
Of course on the rare offset this dident work he could merely defeat Malak with his incredible mastery of Form VII: Juyo.
So unless you are as stupid as i think you are about this fact,then you should understand what i mean.

And as for opening this thread again,i thought that folks should know about Mace's ability to kick Malak's ass.

Hehe noobey