Originally posted by wannabe
Well, ok so, at least i can't proof anything different.Btw, since when is Pyro susceptible to heat and fire?
he should not be immune to fire and heat in general, he is AT LEAST able to control HEAT as well as fire itself, otherwise he would die each time from the heat a flame aura of his emits. Ergo your heat stroke strategy will most likely not work.
To my knowledge he has always been immune to it, not just to the fire he controlled, which would be rather stupid.
Pyro can surround himself with fire without burning, so even [B]IF
A physical attack is still the best thing HT can do to win. [/B]
He is immune only to the fire he is controlling himself. It's stated in his bio, and I don't think there is any comic contradicting it, is there. And he only controls the heat of a flame. He can't change temperatures in everything...he doesn't control heat energy itself. Otherwise he could create flame from scratch, don't you think...?
Originally posted by jrodslam
Didnt the heatstroke come from dehydrating She-Hulk while she was trapped in the ground? She was already suffering from dehydration when she broke free.And when did Torch give Namor a heatstroke?
He didn't, he heated his body, and when Namor touched him, thinking that HT is uncouncious, he burned himself.
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerhow the hell can he cause heat stroke ? he can turn himself into flame for ever if he likes to and wouldnt do a damn thing to him.
And Human Torch can cause a heat stroke to Pyro. He did this to She-Hulk by manipulating heat around him. And he can be hot without being on fire (surprised Namor with this trick) so it's no problem for him to go at Pyro and kill him with that way.
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerI do and it always intrigued me?!
He is immune only to the fire he is controlling himself. It's stated in his bio, and I don't think there is any comic contradicting it, is there. And he only controls the heat of a flame. He can't change temperatures in everything...he doesn't control heat energy itself. Otherwise he could create flame from scratch, don't you think...?
Btw...http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=835...I know it's not really official, but at least it shows that there are others out there thinking reasonably.
Originally posted by wannabe
I do and it always intrigued me?!
Fire is nothing but fast moving or chemically reacting submicroscopic particles emitting heat energy. Pyro can control fire and it's temperature, thus he can control the speed of those particles. So why can't he create fire of his own?
Since we have to accept this inability, there is still the question of how he survives his own flame auras, which are hot enough to easily melt bullets. If he can't directly control heat energy itself, his only way to make flames agreeable to him is to slow down it's particles movement and thus the heat they're emitting. BUT that would automatically mean putting the fire out...which he does not do. So actually almost all comics are contradicting what you mentioned. Pyro has to have some control over heat energy itself or he is immune to it in general, don't you think...?Btw...http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=835...I know it's not really official, but at least it shows that there are others out there thinking reasonably.
He survives his own flame aura, because he is immune to the heat of his own fires. He can only control heat energy when it is together with fire. He can't control heat without fire. I know it's odd...but it's still explained that he can't control anything else then fire.
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerOk, maybe he's not able to directly control heat radiation, that's at least halfway logical if we assume he can only control particle movement, but that he's allegedly not generally immune against heat is faaar beyond being odd!!!
He survives his own flame aura, because he is immune to the heat of his own fires. He can only control heat energy when it is together with fire. He can't control heat without fire. I know it's odd...but it's still explained that he can't control anything else then fire.
Originally posted by wannabe
Ok, maybe he's not able to directly control heat radiation, that's at least halfway logical if we assume he can only control particle movement, but that he's allegedly not [B]generally immune against heat is faaar beyond being odd!!!
He's immune to heat radiation from controlled fire but not to any other heat radiation, though it's physically the same?
He can survive heat emissions with thousands of degrees Celsius from his flam aura, but 200°C in a sauna would kill him?
Following this logic, if he'd create a flame aura with 10000°C in the mentioned sauna, it would save him from dying by the 200°C?! But wait! The heat radiation generated by the sauna is still existent and not negated by the emissions of his flame aura, so Pyro would survive the 10000°C from his flames, but would still die from the 200°C generated by the sauna, cause these radiations do not stem from the fire he controls and so he is not immune to them...oh my... ❌ 🙄 [/B]
How else do you explain that he is harmed by fire he doesn't control...? I think he controls the heat energy of the flame and KEEPS it from harming him. But he clearly can't control heat energy without flame.
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerI don't have a comic in which such a thing happens (though i have comics in which HT gets burned by fire), so i have to take your word for it...and i do, since you are usually a pretty reliable guy.
How else do you explain that he is harmed by fire he doesn't control...? I think he controls the heat energy of the flame and KEEPS it from harming him. But he clearly can't control heat energy without flame.
Originally posted by wannabe
Ok, maybe he's not able to directly control heat radiation, that's at least halfway logical if we assume he can only control particle movement, but that he's allegedly not [B]generally immune against heat is faaar beyond being odd!!!
He's immune to heat radiation from controlled fire but not to any other heat radiation, though it's physically the same?
He can survive heat emissions with thousands of degrees Celsius from his flam aura, but 200°C in a sauna would kill him?
Following this logic, if he'd create a flame aura with 10000°C in the mentioned sauna, it would save him from dying by the 200°C?! But wait! The heat radiation generated by the sauna is still existent and not negated by the emissions of his flame aura, so Pyro would survive the 10000°C from his flames, but would still die from the 200°C generated by the sauna, cause these radiations do not stem from the fire he controls and so he is not immune to them...oh my... ❌ 🙄 [/B]
That's an interesting thought....It truly is odd.