Originally posted by diabloman
please tell me wtf is pyro gonna do to him ? and no pyro cant contol his body if thats what your about to say. yes he can control his flames but wont make a damn difference he can turn back into flame any time he wants pal
Sigh...
Human Torch says "Flame on". What happens? He bursts into flames that do not harm him
Pyro, meanwhile, controls flames like it's his job (cuz, well, it kind of is). As soon as HT flames on, Pyro manipulates the flames around him and crushes Johnny. Or pulls him apart. He has many options.
Originally posted by Metalmanxhe can do what ever pyro wants to his flames wont do a damn thing to him. if he takes his flames wont make a damn difference he can turn back into flame in a sec.
Sigh...Human Torch says "Flame on". What happens? He bursts into flames that do not harm him
Pyro, meanwhile, controls flames like it's his job (cuz, well, it kind of is). As soon as HT flames on, Pyro manipulates the flames around him and crushes Johnny. Or pulls him apart. He has many options.
Originally posted by diabloman
he can do what ever pyro wants to his flames wont do a damn thing to him. if he takes his flames wont make a damn difference he can turn back into flame in a sec.
Why do I even keep giving you a rebuttal? You clearly aren't reading a damn word I'm saying.
Pyro isn't taking HT's flame FROM him. He's using the flame that covers HT to destroy him. No taking away. Just killing.
Originally posted by Metalmanxhe can absorb flame silly. and he can control his own flame as well.
Why do I even keep giving you a rebuttal? You clearly aren't reading a damn word I'm saying.Pyro isn't taking HT's flame FROM him. He's using the flame that covers HT to destroy him. No taking away. Just killing.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Why do I even keep giving you a rebuttal? You clearly aren't reading a damn word I'm saying.Pyro isn't taking HT's flame FROM him. He's using the flame that covers HT to destroy him. No taking away. Just killing.
Technically, as soon as the flames are crushing him, HT can absorb them back at him. Also, each opponent has the basic knowledge of others, right? Human Torch would know that Pyro controls fire, and not use it.
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerThat would get HT the victory, i guess we all agree on that. But the others were having more of a principle discussion.
Technically, as soon as the flames are crushing him, HT can absorb them back at him. Also, each opponent has the basic knowledge of others, right? Human Torch would know that Pyro controls fire, and not use it.
To diabloman...
1) HT is overall more powerful and versatile than Pyro...except in the fire control department. Even though he also has some control over fire, Pyro is simply better at it.
2) The moment Johnny flames on, Pyro could use his superior control to take over HT's flames.
3) Once having control over the flames, Pyro can use them to inflict massive physical damage on HT, bypassing HT's immunity to heat - his flame creature have an actual super strength level, which has nothing to do with the flames heat. That's why the Hulk and Colossus feats were mentioned in the first place.
4) Of course HT could try to absorb the flames before they cause damage, but that would mean he'd have to overcome Pyro's control over them in the first place. He can't do that because of 1), so literally "stealing" the flames from Pyro won't work.
I hope i expressed it clear enough for you to understand!?