Originally posted by Kaos sebaceousHT can control fire outside as well he can do the same thing that pyro does but he has more abilities. HT can create his own flames pyro cant
I doubt that the humant torches control of flames are that much beter than Pyro'sIf pyro see a flame he going to take it over and his suit is designed to have a degree of protection to flames he doesent control. So,even if HT pulls a fast one on Pyro with fire pyro will have enough time to take the flames under his control.
Im not saying pyro will win.I just dont think it will be easy for HT
Whats Ht got besides fire?
The only thing i can think of is flight,and if he flies hes in flame form so why cant pyro controls the flames on him to throw him into buildings and such?
There actually is a comic where pyro takes control of HT's flames but i think it was some non-canon spider-man comic so i have no idea why i said that
Originally posted by Kaos sebaceouspyro can take johnnys flames all he wants and shoot it at johnny. it wont do a damn thing cause johnny can absorb fire if you didnt know. pyro can get his face burned off easy he cant absorb fire only manipulate it. theres a difference.
Thats what im getting at if Ht creates flames and pyro takes control of them what is HT going to do next?
Originally posted by MrHeavySilenceThis is Pyro's problem; he really has no edges on the Torch. Both control flame, but J. Storm can fly at considerable speed, create and control his own flames, and has displayed temperatures much hotter than anything Pyro has ever controlled.
Depends, we really don't know the extent of Pyro's manipulation. Since I don't know whether he could soak up a supernova, I'll say that Torch wins this.
The Human Torch takes this battle, IMO.
Originally posted by spidey-dude
pyro can take johnnys flames all he wants and shoot it at johnny. it wont do a damn thing cause johnny can absorb fire if you didnt know. pyro can get his face burned off easy he cant absorb fire only manipulate it. theres a difference.
Sorry your wrong Pyro can absorb fire under his control
Hes done this on numerous occasions
One of them was in UXM when he saved the rest of the Freedom Force from a burning helicopter by absorbing it
Originally posted by Acrosurgeexactly
This is Pyro's problem; he really has no edges on the Torch. Both control flame, but J. Storm can fly at considerable speed, create and control his own flames, and has displayed temperatures much hotter than anything Pyro has ever controlled.The Human Torch takes this battle, IMO.
Originally posted by Acrosurge
This is Pyro's problem; he really has no edges on the Torch. Both control flame, but J. Storm can fly at considerable speed, create and control his own flames, and has displayed temperatures much hotter than anything Pyro has ever controlled.The Human Torch takes this battle, IMO.
Yes your right.
Human torch would deffinately would win in h2h with pyro
But that what it would have to get down to
Because when HT flies isnt he on fire?
Cant pyro control fire?
Why cant he control the fire on johnny and throw him into a building or something?
Originally posted by Kaos sebaceousif pyro takes johnnys flames while hes flying all he has to do is say FLAME ON and bamn hes got his flames back.
Yes your right.Human torch would deffinately would win in h2h with pyro
But that what it would have to get down to
Because when HT flies isnt he on fire?
Cant pyro control fire?
Why cant he control the fire on johnny and throw him into a building or something?
Originally posted by spidey-dude
hes has to be able to catch it with his bear hands to be able to receive it without getting hurt. pyro can fire johnny from behind at his head and wont do a damn thing to him.
Yup so what? Johnny cant do a damn thing to pyro either.
Well anything that involves flames that is
Originally posted by Kaos sebaceousif pyro takes johnnys flames while hes flying all he has to do is say FLAME ON and bam hes got his flames back
Yes your right.Human torch would deffinately would win in h2h with pyro
But that what it would have to get down to
Because when HT flies isnt he on fire?
Cant pyro control fire?
Why cant he control the fire on johnny and throw him into a building or something?
Originally posted by Kaos sebaceousHTs flames are the temperature of the sun dude. pyro has his gay flame thrower that i seriously doubt the temperature with his flames is anywhere near johnnyts temp. and yes johnny can burn pyros face off easy.
Yup so what? Johnny cant do a damn thing to pyro either.Well anything that involves flames that is
Originally posted by spidey-dude
if pyro takes johnnys flames while hes flying all he has to do is say FLAME ON and bamn hes got his flames back.
Dude im not talking about taking the flames of his body.
Im talking about that layer of the HT's skin that prevents him from being burned
I'm saying Pyro can manipulate the falmes on HT and use them to do what ever he wants.
What is HT going to do with a Flame Construct that can hold back gray hulk?
Originally posted by spidey-dude
HTs flames are the temperature of the sun dude. pyro has his gay flame thrower that i seriously doubt the temperature with his flames is anywhere near johnnyts temp. and yes johnny can burn pyros face off easy.
No he cant
Pyro can increase the termperature of his flames to any intesity he wants
Originally posted by Kaos sebaceousHT going at grey hulk is a different subject there pal. grey hulk knocks him out easy. any hulk has healing factor way higher than wolverines so even if he gets burned some no big deal for hulkster. and i know pyro can manipulate HTs flames on him but HT can also control fire as well outside of him.
Dude im not talking about taking the flames of his body.Im talking about that layer of the HT's skin that prevents him from being burned
I'm saying Pyro can manipulate the falmes on HT and use them to do what ever he wants.
What is HT going to do with a Flame Construct that can hold back gray hulk?