Human Torch vs. Pyro

Started by spidey-dude33 pages

Originally posted by snoopdogg
In that non-cannon comic posted earlier HT could do nothing about Pyro controling his destination.

Of course it's non-cannon.

if HT saw what pyro was doing he would have taken some action just like he did at the end.

Originally posted by Mindset
, and while I could see Pyro taking control of flames thrown at him by HT, I don't see him taking control of the flames directly on HT's body imo.

Why not?

Originally posted by spidey-dude
if HT saw what pyro was doing he would have taken some action just like he did at the end.

Yes, but luckily for Torch, Pyro didnt take the flame off completely. Pyro was basically controlling Torch like a puppet.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Yes, but luckily for Torch, Pyro didnt take the flame off completely. Pyro was basically controlling Torch like a puppet.
even if he did take the flames off completely all johnny has to do is say FLAME ON and hes got them back

Originally posted by spidey-dude
when ?
Hulk #369. Also the construct was able to temporarily hold the Hulk.

I also remember Pyro taking down Ironman in a giant sized avengers

I cant remember the exact issue though

Can't Pyro manipulate part of Johnny's fire? I know it's cosmic fire but it's still flames in the element. If yeah he could defeat him if no than not.

Originally posted by Rewmac
Can't Pyro manipulate part of Johnny's fire? I know it's cosmic fire but it's still flames in the element. If yeah he could defeat him if no than not.

Pyro can manipulate any flame

It doesent matter who it is

Originally posted by Kaos sebaceous
Pyro can manipulate any flame

It doesent matter who it is

Than he can switch Johnny's flame off or at least turn anything against him in a boosted version.

Originally posted by Rewmac
Than he can switch Johnny's flame off or at least turn anything against him in a boosted version.

I dont think he can just switch his flame off.Even of he does torch could just turn it back on.

But i do think when johnny is in his flame form pyro can manipulate what johnny is doing throw him onto the ground a building,anything he wants

well as far as the scans i have seen i have never actually seen pyros's skin come into contact with any flame what so ever.... can anyone provide evidence showing pyros skin in contact with the flame? as i dont belive in this under his control buisnessss. i am aware that he can exstinguish it at will but bring it into contact with his own flesh..... not his body armor!!

and why does the human torch have to even rely on his flame ability in the fist place surely if they both focuses their powers on each others they would get stuck in a deadlock.... now i am going by comic book statistics and saying that human torch is much more battle experienced then pyro and thus going to risk saying that if he just walks up to him and punches him in the face then the battle will be easily over.

Originally posted by Kaos sebaceous
I also remember Pyro taking down Ironman in a giant sized avengers

I cant remember the exact issue though

This fire must have been pretty hot it Iron Man was using all of his energy reserves just to get through the fire. Pyro then says he can make it hotter and hotter...

Originally posted by rougeredmage
well as far as the scans i have seen i have never actually seen pyros's skin come into contact with any flame what so ever.... can anyone provide evidence showing pyros skin in contact with the flame? as i dont belive in this under his control buisnessss. i am aware that he can exstinguish it at will but bring it into contact with his own flesh..... not his body armor!!

and why does the human torch have to even rely on his flame ability in the fist place surely if they both focuses their powers on each others they would get stuck in a deadlock.... now i am going by comic book statistics and saying that human torch is much more battle experienced then pyro and thus going to risk saying that if he just walks up to him and punches him in the face then the battle will be easily over.

It says in the handbook that he is immune to flame he controls. But his suit protects him against flame he does not control.

I say draw.

Human Torch. I belive his controle of his own flames is greater, plus he can simply absorb anything Pyro throws at him.

Human Torch outexperiences Pyro.

Originally posted by complexbrother
Human Torch. I belive his controle of his own flames is greater, plus he can simply absorb anything Pyro throws at him.
exactly

Originally posted by complexbrother
Human Torch. I belive his controle of his own flames is greater, plus he can simply absorb anything Pyro throws at him.

Pyro controls his own flames as well as anyones else flames, logically he should be able to control johnny's as well.

Originally posted by python99
Pyro controls his own flames as well as anyones else flames, logically he should be able to control johnny's as well.
he can control johnnys but wont do any harm to him. even if he takes his flames doesnt matter he can still turn back into flames at any time.

Originally posted by spidey-dude
he can control johnnys but wont do any harm to him. even if he takes his flames doesnt matter he can still turn back into flames at any time.

OK johnny's flames cant do anything to pyro either

If HT would try to shoot pyro with his flames pyro would just take control of them

And this would go on and on and on

Draw.