Originally posted by SuperiorTechi know johny can control his flames and fire outside of himself as well. he can create his own flames. pyro needs his flame thrower
Honestly I would call it a draw but just to point out something johnny can shape his flames and control them of course they wont be like pyro's but just saying.
Originally posted by Placidity
HT Curbstomps Pyro.Heck, even I could beat Pyro with a supersoaker.
How so? hitting Pyro with water will have no affect on his power, like it would the Human Torch. As long as the Human Torch uses his power he is vulnerable to Pyro, however the very nature of Pyros powers gives him protection from the Human Torch. Human Torch lets off a blast of fire, Pyro 1.) Puts it out, 2.) redirects it, 3.) shapes it into something to attack the Human Torch
Originally posted by LordKaosdoesnt matter if pyro takes his flames all he has to do is say flame on and hes got his flames back. and also for your information HT can control fire outside of himself as well just like pyro. so what ever flames pyro has HT can control it as well. and big deal if HT cant make some little birdy house out of fire like pyro does what good is that gonna do in a fight.
How so? hitting Pyro with water will have no affect on his power, like it would the Human Torch. As long as the Human Torch uses his power he is vulnerable to Pyro, however the very nature of Pyros powers gives him protection from the Human Torch. Human Torch lets off a blast of fire, Pyro 1.) Puts it out, 2.) redirects it, 3.) shapes it into something to attack the Human Torch
Worth a double post.
Originally posted by starlock👆
This is my take on this matchJohnny can controll heat also, he can steal heat and intensify it
Pyro has to controll the flames then controll the heat from the flames
johnny has made many duplicates of himself, made air cushions from heat made a warm air funnel,used sun blasts(which have no flame)used ultra violet rays to sunburn dragon man
Johnny does not need to use flame
Human torch wins thisCheck the respect thread its not huge...but it will help
Johnny can absorb fire and heat, but not force, Pyros fire constructs can grab and affect matter without burning it, he can say flame on and Pyro can think flame off. Pyro is immune to heat and fire that is under his control, Human Torch is not invisible and will be in line of sight, that is all Pyro needs to take control, adding fire only makes Pyros arsenal bigger. Human Torches ability to control fire is limited and he has never done anything pyrokinetically that Pyro can't, he had less control over fire than Nova did before she became a herald. Pyro also has the added protection of his suit to give him enough time to adjust to any flame that may get to him before he takes control over it. Now HT can control all the forces of heat and light? He is vulnerable to Pyro in his fire form. Pyro was able to create fire apparitions capable of speech, his power over fire seems more impressive through this feat alone.
Originally posted by nimbus006
Human Torch all day.If going Supernova fails, then it's speedblitz FTW.
Torch can reach speeds faster than sound, and Pyro has normal ordinary human reactions (if I'm not mistaken).
Last time I checked, there are two necessary facts to remember:
1. HT needs to be flamed on to fly; bad news for him when Pyro's around
2. HT is not a bullet--he cannot instantly fly at subsonic-to-sonic speeds
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Last time I checked, there are two necessary facts to remember:1. HT needs to be flamed on to fly; bad news for him when Pyro's around
2. HT is not a bullet--he cannot instantly fly at subsonic-to-sonic speeds
1. Can you show me proof that Pyro has the ability to shut off Torch's power? Because it seems that's what your implying. Not that I don't believe you, but if your going to claim that he can I would like to see proof. Otherwise, that claim will be disregarded.
2. He doesn't have to be a bullet, he can create distance between the two (a couple hundred yds should be sufficient) then speedblitz Pyro.
Or, he can create mutliple versions of himself, and when Pyro's distracted KO him with a punch, or the afro mentioned blitz.
Originally posted by nimbus006
1. Can you show me proof that Pyro has the ability to shut off Torch's power? Because it seems that's what your implying. Not that I don't believe you, but if your going to claim that he can I would like to see proof. Otherwise, that claim will be disregarded.2. He doesn't have to be a bullet, he can create distance between the two (a couple hundred yds should be sufficient) then speedblitz Pyro.
Or, he can create mutliple versions of himself, and when Pyro's distracted KO him with a punch, or the afro mentioned blitz.
The proof is that he is pyrokinetic, a power that allows him to manipulate fire as well as increase and decrease it's size and intensity. the very nature of his power is proof, now you prove that Human Torch has the ability to resist this, especailly when the natural forces that can put out a fire are enough to stop him.
If he gets within a 100 meters of Pyro his speed is irrelevant, thought faster than his flight speed.
Pyro too can create fire constructs (with more variety and the ability to simulate force), if he were to see 100 Human Torch's we are to believe he'll waste time on them instead of realizing that they are fire constructs, he can disperse them just as soon as they can be created, he could even take control of them to fight Human Torch.
Originally posted by nimbus006
1. Can you show me proof that Pyro has the ability to shut off Torch's power? Because it seems that's what your implying. Not that I don't believe you, but if your going to claim that he can I would like to see proof. Otherwise, that claim will be disregarded.2. He doesn't have to be a bullet, he can create distance between the two (a couple hundred yds should be sufficient) then speedblitz Pyro.
Or, he can create mutliple versions of himself, and when Pyro's distracted KO him with a punch, or the afro mentioned blitz.
Actually, that wasn't my argument at all. I never argued that Pyro would have the ability to shut off Torch's flames. I was only alluding to the fact that Pyro should be able to CONTROL Torch's flames, as his fire manipulation has pretty consistently been superior over time.
Also, in order to create distance, he would need to start off somewhere close. Before he can take off, Pyro can take advantage of the situation.
LordKaos said everything else I was going to say.
