Originally posted by Jesse7dude how the hell is he gonna burn HT if hes already on fire as hot as the sun. wont do a single thing to him if he throws fire at him.
Pyro doesn't need to take the fire from Johny, he lets johny keep the fire that he is engulfed in, in no way taking it from him. Pyro rather manipulates the constant fire that Johny is engulfed in and uses it to to destroy johny, not by burning him but by controlling johnys arms, legs, body, which is covered and engulfed in fire, to tear himself (Johny) apart. Johny may be resiliant to fire, but how about mass bleeding?
Originally posted by Jesse7
Pyro doesn't need to take the fire from Johny, he lets johny keep the fire that he is engulfed in, in no way taking it from him. Pyro rather manipulates the constant fire that Johny is engulfed in and uses it to to destroy johny, not by burning him but by controlling johnys arms, legs, body, which is covered and engulfed in fire, to tear himself (Johny) apart. Johny may be resiliant to fire, but how about to mass bleeding?
Originally posted by diabloman
dude how the hell is he gonna burn HT if hes already on fire as hot as the sun. wont do a single thing to him if he throws fire at him.
Do you read? He never once said that Pyro would burn him...He's saying Pyro will control Johnny's flames and making Johnny beat himself up.
Originally posted by Darth Macabrei think you need to read man.
Do you read? He never once said that Pyro would burn him...He's saying Pyro will control Johnny's flames and making Johnny beat himself up.
Johnny's external surface, including skin, hair and eyes is covered with a microscopic layer of transparent fireproofing plates, making him fully immune to fire damage. His cells generate plasmajets through clean nuclear fusion, allowing Johnny to emit flame from part or all of his skin, and even to fly. He can also control flame outside of himself, though this has yet to be explained.
Johnny attended the test of Reed Richards' Nevada desert N-Zone teleportaional device and was transported by its malfunction to France. Waking in a hospital bed there, he briefly burst into flame with no harm to himself. Taken to the Baxter Building, he continually inadvertently burst into flame, slowly learning to control his combustion by reciting "Flame On" and "Flame Off." When the Baxter Building was attacked by Arthur Molekevic's genetically constructed monster, Johnny accidentally burned through a window and fell from the skyscraper, discovering he could fly while aflame.
Originally posted by diabloman
i think you need to read man.Johnny's external surface, including skin, hair and eyes is covered with a microscopic layer of transparent fireproofing plates, making him fully immune to fire damage. His cells generate plasmajets through clean nuclear fusion, allowing Johnny to emit flame from part or all of his skin, and even to fly. He can also control flame outside of himself, though this has yet to be explained.
Johnny attended the test of Reed Richards' Nevada desert N-Zone teleportaional device and was transported by its malfunction to France. Waking in a hospital bed there, he briefly burst into flame with no harm to himself. Taken to the Baxter Building, he continually inadvertently burst into flame, slowly learning to control his combustion by reciting "Flame On" and "Flame Off." When the Baxter Building was attacked by Arthur Molekevic's genetically constructed monster, Johnny accidentally burned through a window and fell from the skyscraper, discovering he could fly while aflame.
Originally posted by diabloman
hmmmmm i wonder why theres no answe back yet . maybe they just dont want to admit there wrong or there taking awhile to come up with something. i have the time so no hurry guys
Ok...Now I understand why you keep saying the same thing over again..You have no idea what they're talking about....Jesse never said Pyro would win by burning HT, so that whole long argument you so cleverly put forth is a mute one...
Originally posted by outarddwarfthey told me to read and i dont take that offensive.
my appologies, you never really said any names you simply insulted peoples ability to read and use their brains effectivly. Still, this is civilized debate so leave the extra "read for once" 's and all that out of it.
Originally posted by Darth Macabrehe was standing up for pyro so yes i guess you could say the he was gonna win.
Ok...Now I understand why you keep saying the same thing over again..You have no idea what they're talking about....Jesse never said Pyro would win by burning HT, so that whole long argument you so cleverly put forth is a mute one...
Originally posted by diabloman
dude how the hell is he gonna burn HT if hes already on fire as hot as the sun. wont do a single thing to him if he throws fire at him.
Dude, no offense or anything, but read his posts. I mean, actually read them. He said absolutely nothing about burning HT with his own fire. Read it again and think about what you're trying to counter here.
1) I guess we ALL agree on the fact that Pyro will not be able to burn HT in any way.
2) When it comes to controlling fire - both have expressed their capability to do so, but HT never expressed a level of control over fire like Pyro did.
I mean, pyrokinesis is Pyro's prime and only power, while HT's power is more fireprojection. And even Reed once said, that HT is hotter and faster, but Franky Ray (later Nova) has the better control - and non of you will certainly proclaim that Franky had better control over fire than Pyro - she certainly never expressed such?! So it's pretty reasonable to assume Pyro has better control over fire than HT.
3) Pyro can not only control fire to throw it at someone, but can also create fire creatures that are almost solid and have an actual superstrength level.
He created a firegolem that was able to punch the Hulk around and a firebird that was able to hold Colossus in the air!!!
Conclusion:
Pyro could control Torch's flame and use it to crush his every bone and take some of the flame while rising into the air to create a firebird to carry him to the ground should HT try to let him fall from great heights.
Any objections?