Originally posted by diabloman
he will fly at him. if you dont remember that torch can fly.if course pyro isnt just going to stand there. pyro isnt flash he cant run fast or nothing.
He flies at the speed of sound...Which a person can see...And that's all it takes for Pyro to use his powers and crush him.
Originally posted by Darth Macabrewhile torch is up in the air he will throw some fire way down at him fas as hell. pyro wont even know its coming. your just standing up for him cause more people like him and hes a villain. admit it you know torch would kill him.
He flies at the speed of sound...Which a person can see...And that's all it takes for Pyro to use his powers and crush him.
Originally posted by diabloman
while torch is up in the air he will throw some fire way down at him fas as hell. pyro wont even know its coming. your just standing up for him cause more people like him and hes a villain. admit it you know torch would kill him.
Standing up for him? Admit Torch would win? I have yet to say who I think would win, and him being well liked has nothing to do with the way I think...You have yet to have any solid evidence that goes against what others (whom are pro Pyro for the win) say....All you keep saying is that when Pyro takes his fire, which no one is saying he would do, Torch would just relight....So, no, I will not admit Torch would kill him, because you are not giving any solid arguments....Repetition, my friend, is no argument.
Originally posted by Darth Macabreive been telling alot of info about him but your not listening of what im telling you he can do to others. pyro is cool and all that but i still think torch has more control over fire and stronger as well.
Standing up for him? Admit Torch would win? I have yet to say who I think would win, and him being well liked has nothing to do with the way I think...You have yet to have any solid evidence that goes against what others (whom are pro Pyro for the win) say....All you keep saying is that when Pyro takes his fire, which no one is saying he would do, Torch would just relight....So, no, I will not admit Torch would kill him, because you are not giving any solid arguments....Repetition, my friend, is no argument.
Originally posted by diabloman
ive been telling alot of info about him but your not listening of what im telling you he can do to others. pyro is cool and all that but i still think torch has more control over fire and stronger as well.
Show us evidence Human Torch has more control over fire...Show us where he himself makes physical constructs out of fire....Don't just fill up responses with Hyperbole, and biographies of the guy...We know who he is, and what he can do...They've (as in the pro pyro guys) have said instances inwhich Pyro has shown remarkable control of fire...They've shown that Pyro is a leadin pyro-kinetic...You however, have not.
Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Show us evidence Human Torch has more control over fire...Show us where he himself makes physical constructs out of fire....Don't just fill up responses with Hyperbole, and biographies of the guy...We know who he is, and what he can do...They've (as in the pro pyro guys) have said instances inwhich Pyro has shown remarkable control of fire...They've shown that Pyro is a leadin pyro-kinetic...You however, have not.
Johnny's external surface, including skin, hair and eyes is covered with a microscopic layer of transparent fireproofing plates, making him fully immune to fire damage. His cells generate plasmajets through clean nuclear fusion, allowing Johnny to emit flame from part or all of his skin, and even to fly.
Johnny attended the test of Reed Richards' Nevada desert N-Zone teleportaional device and was transported by its malfunction to France. Waking in a hospital bed there, he briefly burst into flame with no harm to himself. see says there he can burt into flame without hurting himself.
Originally posted by Darth Macabrepyros skin is no different than anyone elses. if torch throws some fire right at his face hes gone. and i already told you how hot he his. torch is fas hes not jut gonna hold it in his hand for 10 secs. for pyro to take it.
Yes, that's all good and all, but it has no relevance....They're saying Pyro will use the flames that Human Torch bursts into, to kill him. By compressing the flames Johnny has on himself, Pyro will in theory bludgeon Johnny with force and pressure...Not heat.
Originally posted by diabloman
pyros skin is no different than anyone elses. if torch throws some fire right at his face hes gone. and i already told you how hot he his. torch is fas hes not jut gonna hold it in his hand for 10 secs. for pyro to take it.
You don't seem to understand....How is HT going to throw it at his face, when Pyro is controlling all the fire coming from him? Pyro wouldn't just allow him to throw it, he'll control it the second it comes at him.
Originally posted by Darth Macabreread what i put on there about him. i looked up his bio. says he can control fire outside of his body as well. so he can take pyros fire before he can even throw it.
You don't seem to understand....How is HT going to throw it at his face, when Pyro is controlling all the fire coming from him? Pyro wouldn't just allow him to throw it, he'll control it the second it comes at him.
Originally posted by Darth Macabreyou keep saying that pyro is taking torches fire. ok and for what reason ? to eat it ? if hes taking it like you said of course hes gonna use it as a weapon like he does when grabs fire from other things as well.
For the thousandth time....Pyro is not throwing any fire....Where do you keep getting that he is?
Originally posted by diabloman
you keep saying that pyro is taking torches fire. ok and for what reason ? to eat it ? if hes taking it like you said of course hes gonna use it as a weapon like he does when grabs fire from other things as well.
He's going to take control of Torchs flame by compressing it into Torchs body....Not taking it from him.
Originally posted by Darth Macabrepyro cant control others bodies wtf are u talking about ? yes he can control his flame probably but torch has the same powers as him. whats that gonna do to torch pyro controlling his fire ? he aleady on fire nothing can burn him.
He's going to take control of Torchs flame by compressing it into Torchs body....Not taking it from him.
Originally posted by diabloman
pyro cant control others bodies wtf are u talking about ? yes he can control his flame probably but torch has the same powers as him. whats that gonna do to torch pyro controlling his fire ? he aleady on fire nothing can burn him.
Wow....I'm sorry, but I can't continue this...You have no idea what anyone is talking about, and we're just going around in circles.
You're not understanding that Pyro can create physical constructs with his abilities....Therefore he'll beat HT up with the fire that surrounds Johnny's body.
Originally posted by Darth MacabreHT can do the same and HT can protect himself more cause hes on fire. pyro isnt. and yes you are right we are going in circles you can get it through your head what im saying.
Wow....I'm sorry, but I can't continue this...You have no idea what anyone is talking about, and we're just going around in circles.You're not understanding that Pyro can create physical constructs with his abilities....Therefore he'll beat HT up with the fire that surrounds Johnny's body.
Originally posted by diabloman
HT can do the same and HT can protect himself more cause hes on fire. pyro isnt. and yes you are right we are going in circles you can get it through your head what im saying.
I get exactly what you're saying...Because you're saying the exact same thing OVER AND OVER....You lack the understanding of what Jesse and Lord Kaos brought forward...And until you understand, this is pointless.
You fail to recognize that Johnny has not shown the capability of fire control that is on par with Pyro...And until you bring up any evidence of that what so ever, my argument is a lot more sound then your hyperbole.
Sure he can protect himself from heat, but Pyro isn't going to win this fight with heat. He's going to win this battle by using fire as a PHYSICAL WEAPON to bludgeon Johnny...What don't you understand by that? How is being covered in fire going to protect Johnny from being knocked around?
Originally posted by Darth Macabreive showed you evidence of what he can do. and you never showed me. and your saying hes gonna win with a physical weapon that shoots out flame well my friend. didnt it say on his bio he can control fire outside of himself. he can grab the fire on what pyro is shooting at him and throw it at his damn face and kill him.
I get exactly what you're saying...Because you're saying the exact same thing OVER AND OVER....You lack the understanding of what Jesse and Lord Kaos brought forward...And until you understand, this is pointless.You fail to recognize that Johnny has not shown the capability of fire control that is on par with Pyro...And until you bring up any evidence of that what so ever, my argument is a lot more sound then your hyperbole.
Sure he can protect himself from heat, but Pyro isn't going to win this fight with heat. He's going to win this battle by using fire as a PHYSICAL WEAPON to bludgeon Johnny...What don't you understand by that? How is being covered in fire going to protect Johnny from being knocked around?
Originally posted by diabloman
ive showed you evidence of what he can do. and you never showed me. and your saying hes gonna win with a physical weapon that shoots out flame well my friend. didnt it say on his bio he can control fire outside of himself. he can grab the fire on what pyro is shooting at him and throw it at his damn face and kill him.
He is NOT shooting any flames.....He's using the flames wrapped around HT's body and COMPRESSING them....Is that what you don't understand? That Pyro can create pressure and constructs with his fire that is able to duke it out with the Hulk? Show me proof that HT can do that as well....Not just saying he can control flames outside his body...That's not evidence...That's just you saying that he can do it. A fact that most of us know already.
And as for HT grabbing fire that is under Pyro's control....That's pure Hyperbole....You're insinuating that HT's fire control is more powerful then Pyro's...And that, I find, is an absurd insinuation.
Originally posted by Darth Macabretime for you to show some proof. i already showed you what he can do but you dont want to listen. even if pyro is trying to control his flames HT can control his as well he can shoot some fire at pyro and he wont be able to do a damn thing after that. cause of how hot he is.
He is NOT shooting any flames.....He's using the flames wrapped around HT's body and COMPRESSING them....Is that what you don't understand? That Pyro can create pressure and constructs with his fire that is able to duke it out with the Hulk? Show me proof that HT can do that as well....Not just saying he can control flames outside his body...That's not evidence...That's just you saying that he can do it. A fact that most of us know already.And as for HT grabbing fire that is under Pyro's control....That's pure Hyperbole....You're insinuating that HT's fire control is more powerful then Pyro's...And that, I find, is an absurd insinuation.