Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Sure he can protect himself from heat, but Pyro isn't going to win this fight with heat. He's going to win this battle by using fire as a PHYSICAL WEAPON to bludgeon Johnny...What don't you understand by that? How is being covered in fire going to protect Johnny from being knocked around?
Johnny absorbs the fire.
N'uff said 😎
Originally posted by Grimm22
Johnny absorbs the fire.N'uff said 😎
Thank you....That's all I wanted to hear from Diabloman.
And now I can finally pick my choice....Human Torch 8/10
Originally posted by diabloman
time for you to show some proof. i already showed you what he can do but you dont want to listen. even if pyro is trying to control his flames HT can control his as well he can shoot some fire at pyro and he wont be able to do a damn thing after that. cause of how hot he is.
Won't be able to do a damn thing about it? Um, why not just control it? Or does that not consitute as doing a "damn thing about it"?
And you were wrong...I was never in favor of Pyro, I was simply playing devils advocate.
Who's to say that Pyro can't just control those flames? That's not really proof that Johnny would win this fight...What this all comes down to is who has greater control over fire? I know Reed once said no one knows the properties of fire better then Johnny, but I don't think it's ever been stated that he is the absolute master of flames.
Originally posted by Darth Macabreyes pyro can control his flames but torch would just be sending more and more till he cant handle it cause theres a limit if what he can take of course. and yes johnny is the king of fire.
Who's to say that Pyro can't just control those flames? That's not really proof that Johnny would win this fight...What this all comes down to is who has greater control over fire? I know Reed once said no one knows the properties of fire better then Johnny, but I don't think it's ever been stated that he is the absolute master of flames.
look what he does to hulk. and hulk has a healing factor much faster than wolverines. and hulk is still down. pyros skin is the same as any other human. hes gone if torch burns the hell out of him like he did to hulk there. and what weapon are you talking about that pyro will use on torch ? you talking about that stupid jet pack he wears ? if so then man your something else i mean please torch would burn that thng up in a sec.
Originally posted by diablomanlook what he does to hulk. and hulk has a healing factor much faster than wolverines. and hulk is still down. pyros skin is the same as any other human. hes gone if torch burns the hell out of him like he did to hulk there. and what weapon are you talking about that pyro will use on torch ? you talking about that stupid jet pack he wears ? if so then man your something else i mean please torch would burn that thng up in a sec.
What the heck are you talking about? Who said anything about a weapon? And it's not a jet pack, its a flame thrower.
Originally posted by Darth Macabrehahahaha dude youve said a million times already pyro uses a weapon on him. and yes thats a little jetpack he wears behind him its a flame thrower. you know what i meant.
What the heck are you talking about? Who said anything about a weapon? And it's not a jet pack, its a flame thrower.
Originally posted by diabloman
hahahaha dude youve said a million times already pyro uses a weapon on him. and yes thats a little jetpack he wears behind him its a flame thrower. you know what i meant.
A weapon? Ah, no I didn't...I said he could solidify the fire around Human Torch and use it like a weapon...Not use a weapon.
It's not a jet pack...It's a flamethrower...Saying it's a jetpack doesnt change the fact that's it's not a jet.
Originally posted by Darth Macabrei never said he was the rocketeer or nothing you know what i meant. and look at the pics. i put. he would burn the hell out of pyro in a sec. before he tried to take torches flames. and dont tell me hulk is slow cause hes fast when he goes after somone. and he got his butt kicked there and the same for pyro if he was down there.
A weapon? Ah, no I didn't...I said he could solidify the fire around Human Torch and use it like a weapon...Not use a weapon.It's not a jet pack...It's a flamethrower...Saying it's a jetpack doesnt change the fact that's it's not a jet.
Originally posted by diabloman
i never said he was the rocketeer or nothing you know what i meant. and look at the pics. i put. he would burn the hell out of pyro in a sec. before he tried to take torches flames. and dont tell me hulk is slow cause hes fast when he goes after somone. and he got his butt kicked there and the same for pyro if he was down there.
No, it's not the same....Hulk doesn't control flames, does he?
Originally posted by diablomanSo i will tell you AGAIN!!!
hahahaha dude youve said a million times already that pyro can control fire and yes he can. but so can torch as well. if pyro takes torches fire he can take it out of pyros hands in a sec. if he wants.
1) When it comes to controlling fire - both have expressed their capability to do so, but HT never expressed a level of control over fire like Pyro did.
I mean, pyrokinesis is Pyro's prime and only power, while HT's power is more fireprojection. And even Reed once said, that HT is hotter and faster, but Franky Ray (later Nova) has the better control - and non of you will certainly proclaim that Franky had better control over fire than Pyro - she certainly never expressed such?! So it's pretty reasonable to assume Pyro has BETTER control over fire than HT.
2) Pyro can not only control fire to throw it at someone, but can also create fire creatures that are almost solid and have an actual superstrength level.
He created a firegolem that was able to punch the Hulk around and a firebird that was able to hold Colossus in the air!!! (see pics below)
3) Conclusion:
Pyro could control Torch's flame and use it to crush his every bone and take some of the flame while rising into the air to create a firebird to carry him to the ground should HT try to let him fall from great heights.
Originally posted by wannabeFrankie Raye has better control of fire then Human Torch? Since when?
So i will tell you [B]AGAIN!!!1) When it comes to controlling fire - both have expressed their capability to do so, but HT never expressed a level of control over fire like Pyro did.
I mean, pyrokinesis is Pyro's prime and only power, while HT's power is more fireprojection. And even Reed once said, that HT is hotter and faster, but Franky Ray (later Nova) has the better control - and non of you will certainly proclaim that Franky had better control over fire than Pyro - she certainly never expressed such?! So it's pretty reasonable to assume Pyro has BETTER control over fire than HT.[/B]
Originally posted by wannabe
So i will tell you [B]AGAIN!!!1) When it comes to controlling fire - both have expressed their capability to do so, but HT never expressed a level of control over fire like Pyro did.
I mean, pyrokinesis is Pyro's prime and only power, while HT's power is more fireprojection. And even Reed once said, that HT is hotter and faster, but Franky Ray (later Nova) has the better control - and non of you will certainly proclaim that Franky had better control over fire than Pyro - she certainly never expressed such?! So it's pretty reasonable to assume Pyro has BETTER control over fire than HT.2) Pyro can not only control fire to throw it at someone, but can also create fire creatures that are almost solid and have an actual superstrength level.
He created a firegolem that was able to punch the Hulk around and a firebird that was able to hold Colossus in the air!!! (see pics below)3) Conclusion:
Pyro could control Torch's flame and use it to crush his every bone and take some of the flame while rising into the air to create a firebird to carry him to the ground should HT try to let him fall from great heights. [/B]
Torch simply turns off his flame and absorbs any of the physical fire that Pyro throws at him. Then goes and knocks Pyro out.
N'uff Said