Originally posted by Ushgarak
Oh geez, not more Grey Jedi gobbledigook. The whole 'Grey' thing has been made up by clueless fans who have entirely missed the point of what GL has been trying to say.The Light Side of the Force is GOOD. The Dark side is EVIL. There is nothing that can be at fault with the Light Side because it is the very representation of what good IS. Furthermore, Star Wars has an entirely Black and White morality- GL deliberately designed it that way. And Balance is served by the Good. That again is GL's word.
Using the Dark Side makes you evil. Full stop. No argument.
Incidentally, the Jedi serve the Republic because it is the right thing to do. And they are NOT mired in politics.
Adolescent hogwash. all of it. Any fan into 'Grey' stuff loses my respect immediately.
I'm re-quoting this because obviously you did not read it.
There is no such thing as a Grey Jedi. There's a renegade Jedi, who may not wish to serve the Jedi Order or listen to the Council, but still wishes to serve justice with the Light Side and destroy the Sith and Dark Jedi, so on and so forth.
I haven't bothered to read the other posts because, well, I'm lazy.
I think Gray Jedi are the true masters of the Force. Jedi always seem much stronger when they know both sides of the Force instead on only one. Luke became stronger, Dooku and Anakin became more powerful than Maul for instance who was trained to be a Sith lord from birth, etc. Revan seems to have a somewhat Gray view of things, tending to help the Republic through most of his actions. I have heard people say Luke is a Gray Jedi when he fights the Yuuzhan Vong.
It seems like almost all of the really powerful characters knew both sides of the Force. Revan, Luke, Traya, Dooku, Anakin, Kyle Katarn etc. though the only true masters of this style would probably be Luke, Jolee (he's pretty good for a really old guy that hasn't fought much in many many years) and possibly Revan. Gray Jedi aren't pure evil or pure good, have a more logical view of things, and seem more powerful by drawing on both sides of the Force IMO.
I think Grey Jedi are a joke. Dooku and Anakin are not Grey Jedi; Dooku was a Jedi, then he became a Sith; Anakin was a Jedi, then he became a Sith. They were not Grey Jedi.
Luke went Sith for awhile, when he fell; Kyle Katarn ALMOST fell, but then again, if JK2 were a movie, he'd not have lightning at all, unless Kyle were completely evil. It's just there for video game fun, which throws a lot of people off.
What I don't like is that the whole Grey Jedi thing seems to mean jumping back and forth between being evil and good. Anakin was supposed to be the only Sith Lord to amend himself, but then EU turned it into 'oh, it's easy! let's flip-flop sides with this character and this one and...' and so on.
There are no Grey Jedi. Either you're on the Light Side, or your on the Dark Side. No in between. GL makes it quite obvious.
The only one I know, besides anakin, who really makes amends from falling to the dark side is Revan, but he had his memory wiped, soo that's different. Kyp Durron was controlled by Exar Kun. Ajunta pall only regretted in death. Kyle Katarn can't make up his mind. Annie was the only one to fall to the furthest reaches of the dark side to come back to the light on his own.
Originally posted by Darth_Janus
How does the order of Grey Jedi achieve True mastery of the Force by stradling both sides while mastering neither?
A gray Jedi does not completly devote himself to one side, therefore, widinig his options and powers. In the words of Jolee Bindo himself. "I see more gray now, than dark or light."
Originally posted by Fishy
"There must always be a Darth Traya" - KreiaShe basically admitted to being Dark, she was following the Dark Side. Look IRL you are right but no in Star Wars.
There is a light side - good
And a Dark Side - BadThere are some people who want to do good things by being bad (Revan for instance) They are still DS, even if they eventually make things better. There is no such thing as a LS where you kill people in SW. There just isn't, there isn't any bigger logic behind it, thats just how it is.
BTW. "It is one thing to fall, but even far worse to admit it." Ask yourself, is doing a bad thing with good intentions still a bad thing? Most Sith, to me feel like they dont reall know what their doing. Look at Anakin for example.
Originally posted by Nactous
A gray Jedi does not completly devote himself to one side, therefore, widinig his options and powers. In the words of Jolee Bindo himself. "I see more gray now, than dark or light."
That's impossible; you either join the Light or join the Dark, there is no in between. Choosing the Light Side means using the Force for good and benefit of others. Choosing the Dark Side means using the Force for evil and benefit of oneself. Even scratching the surface of the Dark Side means being rejected from the Light. It is impossible to be in the middle of THAT.
Anakin was not Gray; he was Light, then Dark, then Light. There's no Jedi blender that takes his history and makes it gray. 😛
lmao look the poll says it all, the grey jedi win this topic, accept defeat theres nothing you can do about it, the sith got low on the polls, i think they have a llarger veiw on the force then the jedi do. the jedi are like watch dont fall to the dark side, and the sith dont gotta worry about to fallin to nothin
Sith Lord: remeber my apprentice dont fall to the light side, once you start down the light path forever will it dominate ur life.