Grey Jedi:True masters of the force

Mine, Socrates', Kants'.... people far wiser, older, and more schooled than you, by far.

you are wrong just admit it grey never has existed ever close this thread there is nothing more to debate janus is absolutely correct

ok so jus cuz ur a grown man and im a 15 yr old i dont have an opinoin
ok..................lol................

yoda you need shutup you didnt make any valid points in this thread and plz janus can speak for himself

i did make a valid argument and shut up ya self

wow, what did you say bro, last i recall janus shutup you 2 times in this thread and what did you say? good point........wow way to argue

like i said im done no need to discuss grey no more this topic is done, doner and over

You're missing my point... Or rather, in your tongue...

ur missin my poit dude lol

Look, I've studied Ethics, philosophy and history. I've gone over the works of all kinds of thinkers in this world, and recently completed a book entitled... (Surprise!) Star Wars and Philosophy, from a series of books that ties-in philosophy and aspects from popular culture. After going over all the works in there, covering everything from the ethics of cloning to Jedi misleading Luke, Sith motives and whatnot, it's more apparent then ever that there isn't a grey. There ARE different ways of looking at things, but then, I can look at a bee and see danger and another person can see potential.... neither viewpoint neccessarily makes it so. Point? It's not "just my opinion, brah"... It's a combination of rational thought and freethinking for the last few thousand years, culminating in my post regarding your thoughts about this whole "Staying neutral and grey nonsense."

Consider this topic PWN3D.

LMAO you said pwned or whatever you said wit numbers and crap

Look mac im not tryin to start an arguement the topic is done like you said.....still i have my opinoin and like i said none of us has felt the force but jus beacause they dont exist dosent mean that there isnt a median in the force soooooooooooo for the last time:

THIS TOPIC IS CLOSED!!!!!!

its simply why i said good point you no why BRO its because janus is smarter than me i was out smarted simply as i put forth a argument and i was wrong i have came to terms with that fact and now you need to...

Darth-Yoda out

Originally posted by Darth Calladus
im done talking about the grey jedi as im hoping evryone else is but plz tell me how there is only light and dark in life? im talkin to you Fohl and you only i really want to know....

Well...
Anything can be judged in terms of "morality" (probably coming from the points of view the society you live in supports) or at least "individual oppinions" and devided into "black" and "white" or "right" and "wrong".

I'll just give you an example. You said you are a christian and used that statement to back up your personal point of view that you are generally a nice person.

So:
Being a christian is right for you (individual oppinion)
Being a christian might be seen as good in your society (morality)
Being a christian can also be wrong (individual oppinion of an atheist)
Being a christian can be also be seen as bad in another society (jewish, islamist)

So it depends on your personal or societies point of view what is "black" and "white". For you as an individual there is no "grey". For example you can like or not like a person but you can't do both things at once.

Now "Dark" and "Light" side of the force are the overall morality system of the SW universe. If someone uses the force to do what seems right to him BUT might not serve the interests of the galaxy (or the force, or the majority of beings in the SW universe) he is just a "dark sider". And the other way around somebody that acts FOR the interests of the majority and maybe AGAINST his own oppinion can be considered being a "light sider".

Now...there is no space between that. The Seperatists didn't fight for democracy - their main interests were their own interests. Conclusion: Dark Side.

And for "falling into the dark side because you have no choice": There is always a choice.

Originally posted by Darth Calladus
lol ok look mac i also said ealier in the thread if ur gonna downcast the thread like that then dont post. sayin crap like anyone who likes grey jedi loses my respect and its adolescent crap, man im jus gonna throw shit like that rite back at you.

im asking you to be like fishy here and agrue with me about the grey jedi and i wuld like to thank you fishy for not being a jerk about the thread even though we have diferent opinons about the matter.

Going to throw shit at a mod? Niiice...

I am not being a jerk or downcasting anyone; if anything, you are the one downcasting me for my solid opinion that Grey Jedi do not exist. You are either a Jedi Knight/Master/Renegade, or you are a Dark Jedi/Sith Lord. Grey Jedi cannot be masters of the Force if they cannot exist in George Lucas's world. All things in Star Wars, if not in real life, can usually be divided into black and white, good and evil, Light and Dark.

The Grey Jedi simply does not work.

i wuld like to disagree with you on jus a few points you pulled up (nice post by the way, Fohl) but im rappin this up.

I wuld like to thank evryone for posting ur opinion and philosophies on this matter and formally and unofficially (since im not moderator and crap) close this thread up.

Calladus: Peace up, A-town Down

Im out

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Run oft... 😛

so are we mates calladus

yeah man of course.....no hard feelings at all 😄

*pokes Calladus with a stick* Respond to my post, Darthy boy! 😛

good good no hard feelings

Yeah...use the PMs for this, the thread is for discussing, not for apologizing. 😛

sorry REX LMAO anyway this thread is closed

Is it?