Darth Trayas Team VS Darth Sidious's Team

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Originally posted by NCRotCA
"I worship Hideo Kojima's work. That means the series of Metal Gear, Snatcher and Policenauts!"

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Though Policenauts kinda sucks next to MGS and Snatcher...

Thank you. 🙂

Originally posted by Jinsoku Takai
Is that (the video) what NCRotCA was referring to? If so, how does this rule out any effor being used on her part?

No.

YouTube video
at about 4:49.

Attacking in a controlled or precise manner is not a matter of power but of subtlety; subtlety requires a measured application of concentration that by its nature is not something that is so naturally outwardly demonstrated when exerted, particularly so when we're not simply examining an expression but motions of the body. Attacking with force is a matter of power; power requires a forced application of concentration that by its nature has more tangible physical effects on the body. There are ways of concealing the physical effects of either type, but it would be far harder the greater the motion and the less measured it is. Not to mention Traya would have no need to hide the effort of her attack against the people she was actively murdering, whereas it would be in Dooku's interests to keep of face of casual ease with the way he dominated Asajj.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
KOTOR is so ****ing gay at times. Why would they off-panel that whole fight? -sighs- That always bugged me.

LucasArts wanted a Christmas release. awecraz

And I doubt it was an actual fight. She doesn't even turn around and they don't move from the spot. She literally kills them instantly with zero apparant effort.

Totally forgot about that as well, though I still don't know what I'd label her very best feat between that and her attack on the three Jedi Masters.

Originally posted by Nephthys
LucasArts wanted a Christmas release. awecraz

And I doubt it was an actual fight. She doesn't even turn around and they don't move from the spot. She literally kills them instantly with zero apparant effort.


That's all an assumption since we don't actually see what happened. What I think happened is Revan Bandon jumps down and slaughters them all to save Kreia. But it really doesn't matter because it's exagerated anyway. 😉

NCRotCA: Same thing. There is absolutely NO WAY you can tell if she was/wasn't straining at all during her Force usage. The camera cuts away from her face until AFTER she's done. So your comparison w/ Dooku's Force showing against Ventress falls flat on its face.

Err, no. She doesn't even turn around and they don't move a muscle. Its obvious that they're taken out quickly and decisively. And even so, killing 7 other force users in a single attack is on a level only Nihilus can claim to have done, having to strain to do it doesn't stop it from being an impressive showing of the Force.

Where do you get the idea that it is quick. The camera fades away it could have been several minutes between the clips or a second, we don't know. And yes, they did move. When they appear there are only two in the front, but when they die there are at least three.

NCRotCA specifically said that she showed no effort whatsoever. So the post abolishes that specific claim.

Where do you get the idea that it is quick. The camera fades away it could have been several minutes between the clips or a second, we don't know.

The fact that she didn't move and neither did they indicates that it was very quick, unless they had a battle in which none of them moved.

Did it fade away? It 'cut to black', but you can hear them keeling over during the cut. To be honest, they probably did it so they wouldn't have to animate her killing them.

And yes, they did move. When they appear there are only two in the front, but when they die there are at least three.

There was always three at teh front. Two on either sides and then one in teh middle.

I said no visible effort, and I was referring to the attack on the three Jedi Masters, not to mention that my comparison dealt with far more than just their respective displays of effort.

No you said outward, which is quite a bit different than visible.

Here is your comment. "With no outward display of effort. Whilst situated on a lightside nexus."

All dogs are mammals, but not all mammals are dogs. All sharks are fish, but not all fish are sharks.

And by that I meant no display of effort projected outwards, i.e. visible to the outside world in this scenario (and audiological actually, I believe she continues to talk during the attack and there are no differences in her voice).

Originally posted by Jinsoku Takai
All dogs are mammals, but not all mammals are dogs. All sharks are fish, but not all fish are sharks.

What is this supposed to relate to???

Originally posted by NCRotCA
And by that I meant no display of effort projected outwards, i.e. visible to the outside world in this scenario (and audiological actually, I believe she continues to talk during the attack and there are no differences in her voice).

Two things here: One - she speaks not a single word during the attack. Two - once again, there is NO WAY to tell if she displayed any effort to the outside world, because guess what? The camera cuts AWAY FROM HER FACE, plain and simple.

Originally posted by NCRotCA
What is this supposed to relate to???

It was a comment I decided to make in advance of an anticipated response. You didn't respond as I thought you might, therefore the comment is null and void.

Dude... I'm not talking about the Assassins I'm talking about the Jedi Masters. 😬

Yep, me too. Better watch the video, because apparently you're mistaken about what exactly happened. 😗

OK I just watched it (one of the coolest scenes in the entire mythos 😎 ) and yes, it turns out I had remembered incorrecty, the camera does focus solely on the Jedi Masters during the attack. However we do get to see Traya before and afterwards and she continues to talk in a normal manner so we can say that at the very least the attack didn't drain her or show any after effects of a real exertion. We do also get to see her when she throws them around with telekinesis and she doesn't even display any movement whatsoever. But whatever, I retract that tiny part of my statement, the exact outward demonstration of effort she displayed as she performed the attack cannot be determined. Matters little though, annihilating three prepared Jedi High Council Masters at once on a lightside nexus is still phenomenally impressive, regardless of how much of an effort it was.