Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Yes,yes, he knows this, but when does he use it often?
He just used great prep and stealth in his own book over the past half year when he took on the X-men and Fantastic Four and others. Then there was the Avengers imitation I mentioned. Then there was his silent infiltration of Mandarin's headquarters and then outsmarted him during acts of vengeance by playing dead to get up close. And that's just to start you off. There's a pretty good history of him fighting smart in his own book, especially when in Madripoor, Old Genosha, Japan and Hammer Bay storylines. I could give more extensive accounts, but I think you get the point.
When does he need to? He has a healing factor and outfights his opponents moreso than outhink. He knows Cyclops true, but you mentioned what Cyke can do (by my mistake), and I know that wolverine doesn't need to use his fighting, Cyke is a tactician, and unbelievably accurate. No visors=overkill.
Cyclops is unbelievably accurate, which is why I give him the majority. But he's also human and prone to mistakes, like anybody else. Cyclops would have to play things perfectly. I believe he can do it more than not, but I also think that Wolverine, because of his healing, has a lot more room for tactical error, despite the fact that he's also a tactician. That's why I put him solidly at taking 4/10 from Cyclops. No visors = horrible mistake by Cyclops.
Though I never said this,he has done so before, I have dodged a bullet before.
Where/when has Ryu dodged a bullet before? It's not in any of your links, and you still haven't revealed your source for these extreme powers you're saying they have.
Yes Oro's has a story line thats it. He has sealed his arm in mystic power, and he is on the level of cosmic gill, and shin akuma, the god tier, he's 200 years old, and all the SF characters are better fighters, and have projectiles, these guys anyway.
yes, god tier, cosmic gill, etc. But what are his FEATS? What has he done to make me think that he'd do more than collapse and die when stabbed once by adamantium claws? What impossible things has he survived? What impossible things have any of these people withstood? Gunshots? Buildings falling on their heads? Explosions? Grenades? Because Wolverine has, without missing a beat. Ditto with "Cosmic" Gill. Again, I have yet to see or hear of a source or reference for anything in the street fighter universe aside from destroying an island, done by one character.
And herein is why these matches are poor to discuss, especially with marvel characters. I apologize, but these become feat wars, dragonballz vs superman anyone.
I don't want to turn it into a feat war...I just want to know that these feats actually happened, lol. It's all I ask. Pretty please tell me! With ice cream on top!
I never argued ryu surpassing akuma, ever. If I said so I didn't mean to.
Then what is your evidence that he could beat Wolverine? What's Ryu's best canon feat?
Shin Akuma has destroyed meteors, shook the earth in a stomp, blasted away a city, walks the ocean floor.
WHEN?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Reference, please! It's not in any of the links you gave.
He teleports at will, he broke ayer's rock, he eats the heart, mind, and soul in his strongest attack.
And yet, the only reference for any of this is Ayer's Rock, the island...which we already know about. Where's the rest???
Akuma loses no way in hell, and bison doesn't.
Wolverine beat both Thing and Iron Fist, who have similar feats of pure power, and hung with Hulk, who destroyed a planet-sized asteroid. It takes more than offense, it takes durability to hang in there. What's Akuma's durability feats? And what is the reference for anything beyond the usual Ayer's Rock, which is the only feat you've listed backed by any evidence you yourself provided?
Gill moves the ocean, resurrects.
resurrection is backed by canon. Moving the ocean? No reference. All that proves is that Gill has a healing factor too, lol.
Like I said I posted and they are "feat wars" poor discussion, unless you follow up on it OR use them in the same universe.
But the difference is, if you were to compare Goku to Wolverine, you have strength feats backed by the actual episodes, speed feats, durability feats, etc. to make the comparison. We have your word that Akuma did these things, but they're not in any canon guides you or anyone else has provided. I *can't* count them in good conscience without that anymore so than I can count Logan 87 saying, "Wolverine once gutted Galactus, but I don't have an issue number, scans, or storyline to prove it".
It has the story there, but like I said tis feat wars, people who know the story understand,and those who don't, don't.
You're so mysterious. I'm an avid Street Fighter fan. I played the game for years, and followed the official story in both Japan and the US. The feats you've listed are the first time I've heard any of it, and it naturally causes me to question what your source is. The links other people have posted and the links you've posted don't show anything that you're talking about. So what "storyline" am I not knowing, and where do I get this storyline?
Ken has a distance attack.
Fireball? It only takes, like, 20 of them to knock Chun Li out, lol.