Black Adam vs Thor

Originally posted by leonidas
don't forget, martian manhunter gave cm all he could handle, and he only fought him physically. cm would have probably won the fight, but a distraction and mm very nearly ko'd him.

i think cm has great showings against supes, but against everyone else that is acknowledged as supes' inferiors, he battles them to draws or stalemates. it's one of the reasons i think their histories need to be taken into account when they fight each other.

i'm with snoop -- overall supes has the slightest of edges on cm.

Well Cap wasnt in control of his body at all when MM fought him. Plus MM was trying to help Cap break the mind control at the same time and when he did, Billy was JUST coming to and thats when MM hit him. Plus Dr.Fate helped in the distraction as well. Thats like just waking up and getting punched in the face.

Cap also had a good showing against Lobo.

that's what i meant when i said mm almost ko'd him with the distraction . . . but most of the fight was very even, and mm<supes (physically and durability-wise)

"What issue #? I have no idea what your talking about"

Checked out. It was Lane/Parasite that punched Superman, not Eclipso. Your right. Above being more vicious in using powers i cant tell if he enchantes anyone or not.

Originally posted by olympian
Above being more vicious in using powers i cant tell if he enchantes anyone or not.

He sure as hell enchanted Jean Loring's ass

Who?

The current Eclipso who helped drive Spectre to madness.

Originally posted by olympian
Who?

Jean Loring.

The one who killed Elongated Man's wife.
The one who fought the Shadowpact.
The one who is manipulating Spectre to rid the DCU of all magic.

I missed the name completly, you have any scans where she was enchanted by Eclipso?

When Eclipso took over Dr. Tracey's body he used the Luthor battle suit to take on Superman. When he takes over humans he does enchant them with his strength and speed but those are still below Supermans level.

Why else would he need the suit to take on Superman?

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/AOS639.jpg

Originally posted by olympian
I missed the name completly, you have any scans where she was enchanted by Eclipso?

The whole Day of Vengeance series.

You still want me to scan a pic?

What i only want to make sure is if he -can- indeed if he chooses enchant the body hes possesing.

"You still want me to scan a pic?"

If it isent much trouble, jro.

I wonder...

Since it's pretty obvious that Superman has been getting a bit more invulnerable to K-Nite, I wonder if it will come into play when he fights the old Superman? Old Superman could easily be totally taken down by the slightest hint of K-nite.

K-nite from this universe doesn't work on E2 Superman and that comment came out of nowhere. 😕

Originally posted by The Ion
K-nite from this universe doesn't work on E2 Superman and that comment came out of nowhere. 😕

They can't.

Heh.

Originally posted by The Ion
They can't.

Originally posted by The Ion
They can't.

Eclipso took over Jean while she was in Arkham.

Her vs Shadowpact. Showing magical blasts and super strength.

After Hawk Girl stabbing her in the eye and Black Adam braking her neck, she gets back up then blasts them.

Different frequency of radiation I suppose. The best they could do is try and get someone to synthesize E2 K-nite but it's not like they know the frequency. For all intents and purposes, the only way to beat E2 Supes is just to be tougher than he is.