Mace Windu vs. Count Dooku in Geonosis Arena

read everything i have already written illustrious the answers are all there

You said Yoda's lightsaber was knocked out of his hand and that Mace was caught off guard.

Both of these are assumptions at best. Yoda's lightsaber wasn't sheathed, he wasn't on solid ground when he was hit, how do you know how he would have reacted if you change those variables? You don't. So stop pretending you have all the answers.

the facts are that both were caught offguard by the force lightning and yoda loses his saber whereas windu stands firm and redirects the electricity back at sidious. It doesn't take a genius to figure out who has better defence against force powers

Originally posted by kingkman
are you really saying that yoda purposely dropped his saber because he needed to block it with his hands. thats actually quite funny surry thing nai fohl and sidious did not drop his lightsaber before that he put it away.

Oh...great that you know the films better than George Lucas. Here...have a look at the ROTS script and you will find the following sentences in it:

"YODA unleashes a ferocious assault on PALPATINE, causing him to almost go over the edge. The Dark Lord drops his lightsaber"

"The force causes YODA to drop his lightsaber."

Ah...so Sidious did drop his lightsaber before Yoda dropped his. Stop boring me...

As i said it exploded he did not redirect it. And just as yoda fell sidious and yoda were on the same height and so when yoda fell of he lost the high ground.

Yoda did redirect it the energy was stored between them and then it explodes. Sidious was standing at the middle of the pod while Yoda was standing on the outside of it so Sidious was in fact in the better position and still he was blown out of the pod and got lucky being able to hold on to that pod.

Yoda was not as close as mace. Mace was almost on top of him he was ready to strike him down. lightning is not absorbe by a saber blade as is shown when mace redirects it

Cool. Yoda was in fact closer to Sidious than Mace was. If you don't believe me explain the following picture and tell me how Mace could have been "closer":

the force causes yoda to drop his lightsaber, i know but you said he did it on purpose which is just stupid.

Originally posted by kingkman
the facts are that both were caught offguard by the force lightning and yoda loses his saber whereas windu stands firm and redirects the electricity back at sidious. It doesn't take a genius to figure out who has better defence against force powers

Mace wasn't flying through the air to try to land on Sidious' pod. He didn't drop his lightsaber and STILL manage to reflect the lightning back at Sidious. Hell, like I said, even Obi-Wan managed to block lightning from a Sith Lord with a saber, are you going to argue Obi-Wan has more "defense against force powers" than Yoda?

Originally posted by kingkman
the force causes yoda to drop his lightsaber, i know but you said he did it on purpose which is just stupid.

Watch the movie again. Yoda jumps up, drops his lightsaber and immediatly deflects Sidious lightning so he dropped it before being "hit" and thereby it is stupid to say that Sidious shot the lightsaber out of his hand.

Speaking of the geonosis arena i just got this from hyperspace.

In early versions of the Episode II script, the Jedi rescue on Geonosis was to take place on two fronts - the 200 Jedi who swarmed the arena, as well as a second smaller group of Jedi, led by Ki-Adi-Mundi, who were to advance on a Federation Droid Control Ship that was landed nearby. Ki-Adi-Mundi's mission was to knock-out central control theoretically disabling all of the planet's droids - as Anakin had done in The Phantom Menace.

Some of the live action elements to create this sequence were photographed in Sydney. When Burtt assembled this footage with animatics in the context of the entire Battle of Geonosis, Lucas decided that the failed raid was ultimately confusing and did not offer enough payoff for the screen time required.

So if anyone was wondering where plo koon and ki adi's strike team were. there it is. It is in Lucas's script notes but there was no time to film it.

Plo Koon and Ki-Adi-Mundi were in the arena. There was no other strike team; that was planned, but never done.

yes it was planned and it was originally written too. But it wouldent work because they had no time to film it.

Im just saying this because people call them wusses. They did nothing and were escorted into the survival circle by droids.

I think there are something like five books on Ki-Adi Mundi. I bet he is pretty good in those.

Ki adi is really good. Not a good figter but he can lead people. Take control like sids except ki adi aint as powerful as sids.

Ki-Adi-Mundi's probably a likealbe character. Hell, they all are. But I don't think he's so much an amazing fighter as he is supposed to be a learned jedi master.

I think Ki is supposed to be smart. I mean, that huge head would be easy to get a head-shot on in a fight.

Oh yeh, definetly agreed with.

The only reason I think yoda trained him is because his race is endangered...?

No, Ki-Adi-Mundi had Force potential. But he was allowed to marry and have children because of the special situation with his race being slow to procreate. But obviously Ki didn't have an unhealthy relationship on his hands.

I doubt that. He is still good in combat. The head thing was only a joke. I would put him as about equal to Depa and Luminara.

That doesn't make sense. Depa was potentially more dangerous in lightsaber combat that Luminara was, and Luminara had a better defense than ki did.

Fair enough. He is not a crazy fighter though. He is a politician