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I took Mechmoggy's advice and searched first and nothing came up only ten threads and not one was dooku vs. sids. (this is separate from all those team battles) Yoda held off Sid's lightning just fine but sids moved closer and Yoda decided to give him a taste of his own medicine. (Yoda didn't lose to sids either he just flew farther cause he's light and just cause you don't fly far dosen't mean you don't feel pain wait.........i'm off topic.
Well, in saber combat I believe Dooku would own him. However, to say Sdious' command of the Force is better than Dooku's is a bit premature. Perhaps his Sith lore is better (Hence his awesome Sith lightning). However, Dooku easily vanquished Obi-Wan with the Force.... And since Mace Windu (who was a bit surprised and taken aback) can deflect the lightning at close range... Dooku, who is stronger in the Force and has more experience in Sith lore, would be able to counter such measures. So why was Dooku the apprentice? That's another story, although I have some ideas.
I agree. . . Which is why both Sidious and Dooku were able to fight Yoda to a standstill. . . Dooku has just risen in the ranks.
One thing though; I went to see Star wars again yesterday night. In his battle against the Jedi, Dooku's expression did seem kind of surprised. . . I don't think he was completely in control of the fight. Now, I think he would have defeated both had he not had his orders, but after Anakin kicks him down and they lock, Dooku has the advantage. Here he tells Anakin to use his anger and fear, etc. That's the point where Anakin takes out Dooku. I think the Count was overwhelmed by this sudden turn, because if he wasn't, then he wouldn't have had his hands chopped off. I don't know. . .
Count Dooku is an exceptional duellist to be sure. He fought Yoda to a standstill and it is said he has bested Mace Windu in times previous. He also managed to take Obi-Wan and Anakin simultaneously and defeat them in battle.
If they ever dueled, Dooku is no pushover. And I don't think he had any ambition to betray and conquer Sidious. I think he just wanted to know as much about The Force as he could - and we all know Sidious has more knowledge of The Force than Dooku. Perhaps that is the reason.
However, I would have to say that Dooku is inferior to Sidious in Force powers, which would give Palpatine the edge. In a battle of The Force, Sidious would crush Dooku. Or I assume.
Sidious wins.
It is difficult to pin down just how powerful Sidious is or isn't. Dooku we know is powerful because of all the praise heaped on him by Yoda, and by his confrontations with Anakin, Ob-Wan, and Yoda. Sidious has no history that we can judge him by, and the only reliable things in the movies are his duels with Mace and Yoda. There isn't anything in these two duels that suggests to me that Sidious could kill Dooku.
And yet Dooku is the apprentice. It is the way of the Sith for the apprentice to kill the master as soon as he is the stronger of the two, then find an apprentice for himself. This ensures that the Sith are always as strong as possible.
I have to conclude that if Tyrranus could have killed Sidious, he would have.
Okay. . . in a one-on-one, Sidious would beat Dooku. Watch Yoda vs. Sidious. Yoda could outsaber Sidious, so he ran away and "defeated" him with the Force. Same with Dooku. That would however, be an awesome battle, with Lightning and metal and pods flying around everywhere. . . and it wouldn't be easy for Sids.
1. Yoda and Sidious were equal in saber combat. I don't recall seeing Yoda outfighting or disarming Sidious or vice-versa. Every move Yoda made, Sidious countered. Every move. Same for Yoda. So don't go around saying that unless you have evidence, Darth Windu.
2. If Yoda apparently could crush Dooku as many people say, and Sidious fought him to a standstill, then I would have to say Sidious could probably beat Dooku. If you say it would be difficult, then I s'pose that Dooku and Yoda and Sidious are all just about equal to one another.
Here's some Somebody- Sidious did counter Yoda's moves, and with skill as well. So don't jump to any conclusions before you think about the situation. If Sidious was so on par and equaled with Yoda, why'd he have to constantly run away? Why did he leap away onto a pod when he fought Yoda saber-to-saber on the podium? Thought so. Sidious knew that in a direct confrontation he would lose; hence why he chose to try and run away at the beginning. I saw the movie last night man; it's fresh in my memory.
I'd believe, sidious would win, due to his supperoirity of the force. And i beleive I read something earlier in this thread about someone saying that dooko is a better force user and duelist(saber wise) if so then annakin would have no problem, so if your stating that dooko is better in saber skills, your stating that anakin and yopda could tyake sidious, whixch is not true, my opinion though.
Well think, Darth Windu. We know Sidious is a coward and rarely likes to take BIG risks. Yoda was a variable in this fight that he had no control over. The odds were high that he would lose. He and Yoda fought equally with sabers. He wanted to tip the odds instead of waiting for Yoda to possibly strike him down. So he put distance between them and switched tactics from melee combat to ranged.
But the point is he could not overcome Yoda face-to-face. Sidious NEEDED the high ground. If Sidious sat there in his office and whupped Yoda's ass or even came close to whupping his ass, I don't think the issue would be so split.
But what everyone saw, you me, Windu, etc... Is Sidious playing smart, but playing dirty. In an honest fight he could not take the advantage, and I would assume on level ground Yoda would eventually tire him out or destroy him. Why? Watch Yoda and tell me you think Sidious could have killed him in saber combat.