Dooku vs. Sidious

So we've established that Sidious can't beat Yoda in a fair fight. How does that affect Dooku not being able to off Sidious?

i give dooku that he is strong in the force and also good at dueling. but i he is kinda dumb. as i stated before he should of knew that sidiuos wanted to replace him. he is so weak were sidiuos is so strong at. and sidiuos is almost unarguebly better then dooku in the force. so what else does that leave? lightsaber combat. we know dooku is good at lightsaber combat. some people say that sidiuos is not good at lightsaber combat. why? when has sidiuos done something wrong in a lightsaber duel? he got attacked by 4 of the best lightsabers duelers and killed three of them. he was surprised by the attack and still did well. that is one posibility. the other is he knew of the atack and lost to mace on purpose. either way he is a good dueler.

Dooku would definetly kill Sidious in a Lightsaber and force fight. Although, yes, it would be a long and hard match, Dooku would come out ontop.

Dooku wasn't the Master because Sidious may not be as good with the Lightsaber and the force as Dooku, but Sidious' sneaky and manipulative persuasion techniques were unmatched.

Sidious was a Mastermind when it came to manipulating people and twisting them. Even someone so experienced as Dooku did not see Sidious' do this to him or Sidious' master plan. Dooku is proof that Sidious that almost manipulate anybody.

But if Sidious ever tried to strike Dooku down with a saber....

Sidious would meet his end.

Unless he tried to lightning him out of a window. . . Just kidding. Dooku is highly underestimated, and has now risen in the ranks! Okay.

You're telling me you believe Count Dooku could best Darth Sidious in a Force battle, Lordsorgo? That's a very tall claim. What proof do you have to support it?

I doubt that, but if he'd practiced longer and harder, I think he'd be able to defeat Sidious, and be right up there with Yoda.

What has this forum come to, theres a reason sidious is the master, in dark rendevous and in the ROTS novelization dooku speaks of sidious with awe, you dont talk like that about somone who is weaker than you.

You don't delve into things like you should. . . Dooku and Sidious are not yet on par. But what we ARE saying is that Dooku would give Sidious hell. Look at and read ALL the posts on this thread before you say things like that.

I agree with Windu. Dooku would give sids a hell fight. And he might even come out on top. I mean he is much older, possibly just as wise. And is skills with a lightsaber are unquestionable. Dooku is not guaranteed true victory or ownage, but if he fights very wise and hard, no doubt he will become the next master.

Originally posted by Darth Windu
You don't delve into things like you should. . . Dooku and Sidious are not yet on par. But what we ARE saying is that Dooku would give Sidious hell. Look at and read ALL the posts on this thread before you say things like that.

There were a couple people I noticed that said dooku would beat sidious so I had to correct that, your right though dooku is very powerful and it wouldnt be a walk in the park.

agreed, than we all agree, sidious would fight dooko and strike him down ?

Well, I think he had the potential to.

If he'd trained longer in the Sith arts, probably.

um sidiuos could of defeated mmace windu becuase if he wanted to kill mace wimdu he could of force pushed him. remember that sidiuos did his lightning after anackin came. it was all part of his master plan. sidiuos beat yoda who was a higher rank then mace windu

Okay. What's your point? You obviously don't think much man. I don't mean to sound rude, but it's hard to have a debate with someone who doesn't think about anything.

Originally posted by Aduruth
agreed, than we all agree, sidious would fight dooko and strike him down ?

Yes its agreed, I think even Darth Windu admitted it though he didnt want to.

I think it would be Dooku cos wen he fought yoda he didnt put evry thing into it, he was trying to escape whereas sid tryed alot harder for the same outcome

Originally posted by Kam Solusar
I think it would be Dooku cos wen he fought yoda he didnt put evry thing into it, he was trying to escape whereas sid tryed alot harder for the same outcome

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Kam. . . .that actually made sense! Good job.

And yes, I think that in a full-blown battle, Sidious would win. But he'd have to use the same tactics as he did against Yoda; retreating and blasting the enemy with Force powers and debris. If Dooku got Sidious into a saber duel, the Master would get owned. BUt as long as Sidious can stay a step ahead, he can win it.

thanks i do try