Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I think the reasoning for Gin's absurdly lame bankai is that Tite needs to kill off the remaining antagonists so he can focus all of his (somewhat) writing creativity on Aizen. In short, Tite probably just wants Gin gone so he can do further exploring into Aizen's goals.I just want to clear something up but can we all agree that Gin's bankai is worse than Soi-fon's.
Byakuya's Bankai, is basically his shikai with a larger effective area and a few unique abilities thrown in.
Sajin's Bankai is just the full manifestation of his shikai.
Even a weird one like Mayuri's, basically does the same thing as his shikai (poison) except giant sized and in gas form.
And his Bankai isn't any less creative than Ichigo's own. I mean really it's just a speed boost and a stronger blast attack.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Bah, you know Kubo didn't care about the figures. Besides, it's made of spiritual matter not physical matter.
And yet the swords have 'physical' properties that are remarkably like ones we'd expect from real-world swords.
Originally posted by King Kandy
I didn't care that Ichigo blocked it. After all, he has a really good point... why shouldn't a bankai be able to block another bankai. I mean it wasn't that long ago that he beat Byakuya with Bankai, and Kenpachi with Shikai. So it's kind of like a reverse power creep. It reminds us that Vizard-less Ichigo isn't a wimp, which recent chapters definitely have made it seem like.
I fail to see how Ichigo besting Byakuya has anything to do with what happened against Gin.
Also, Gin is a captain able to somewhat make Ichigo using Bankai sweat by just flexing his Spiritual Pressure. You'd think that such a captain releasing his bankai for the first time would wound Ichigo.
Otherwise, I suppose you have a point. Still is rather stupid of Kubo IMO.
Originally posted by Q99
Btw, some people used a steel weight calculator to figure out how much Gin's bankai would weigh fully extended.55 tons.
And he's whipping it around effortlessly (not even getting into how much that'd effectively weigh with leverage and such).
I don't even know why he swung it in the first place to be honest. He should have aimed it at Ichigo first and then 'shot' it. Granted, Ichigo would probably avoid it, but then he could resort to a swing.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I don't even know why he swung it in the first place to be honest. He should have aimed it at Ichigo first and then 'shot' it. Granted, Ichigo would probably avoid it, but then he could resort to a swing.
Like I said before, Tite is trying to off Gin and raise respect points for Ichigo. Or Gin could just be toying with him and this stage of his bankai could be just a starter kind of like Byakuya's. However unless something happens soon, Gin will die a lame dead (just like Tousen).
Anyone else notice that Gin does not get the slightest bit less creepy when he opens his eyes? 🙂
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I don't even know why he swung it in the first place to be honest. He should have aimed it at Ichigo first and then 'shot' it. Granted, Ichigo would probably avoid it, but then he could resort to a swing.
Ichigo did see that move before in shikai form, so I'm not sure if it's worth repeating.
wakkawakkawakka
Or Gin could just be toying with him and this stage of his bankai could be just a starter kind of like Byakuya's.
He should have a hollow form too.
Originally posted by Q99
Anyone else notice that Gin does not get the slightest bit less creepy when he opens his eyes? 🙂Ichigo did see that move before in shikai form, so I'm not sure if it's worth repeating.
He should have a hollow form too.
He opened only one eye I believe.
That's like saying Ichigo shouldn't have used Kuroi Getsuga Tenshou against Grimmjow as Grimmjow had been hit by it before 😬.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
He opened only one eye I believe.
It looks like two to me, though one was partially behind hair and harder to see.
That's like saying Ichigo shouldn't have used Kuroi Getsuga Tenshou against Grimmjow as Grimmjow had been hit by it before 😬.
But a slash or a stab should have about the same power behind it, it's not really much different effect going for the slash, and they're far enough away that I think getting out of the way would be pretty easy for Ichi.
I mean, sure, he could've, but I don't think it's more advantageous, and Gin strikes me as the type to like to mix things up.
Originally posted by Q99
It looks like two to me, though one was partially behind hair and harder to see.But a slash or a stab should have about the same power behind it, it's not really much different effect going for the slash, and they're far enough away that I think getting out of the way would be pretty easy for Ichi.
I mean, sure, he could've, but I don't think it's more advantageous, and Gin strikes me as the type to like to mix things up.
http://static3.mangastream.com/manga/2/100/19.png
Left eye looks like a slit to me.
Also:
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Granted, Ichigo would probably avoid it, but then he could resort to a swing.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
http://static3.mangastream.com/manga/2/100/19.png
Left eye looks like a slit to me.
Ah, I ment this page.
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A swing's no worse, so it's not really "resorting" to a swing. And while a pierce can be combined with a short swing, it can't be combined with a wide swing with a lot of momentum as easily, which is what he used.
I know I'm going to sound rude by asking this but really, no matter how he used his blade whether it be a swing or a piercing move, its still lame!
Gin was probably just showing off with his first strike and really didn't seem to care that Ichigo blocked it from the chapter. However its still oh...so unimpressive.
You know what I realized the problem in Bleach is right now? Really boring villains. Aizen has one of the most vapid and boring motives for taking over the world i've ever heard, and while I understand Kubo is waiting to reveal more, in the mean time he's done a remarkable job of not giving me a shred of personality that would make me care about whether Aizen wins and loses. The Espada (barring a few) were able to cram in loads of personality and character development int he few chapters where they were central, while Aizen has had the whole Arrancar arc to do nothing but be boring. So i'm having a difficult time keeping interest in him. Gin is a little better, so i'm glad we're seeing more of him.
Originally posted by Q99
Ah, I ment this page.---
A swing's no worse, so it's not really "resorting" to a swing. And while a pierce can be combined with a short swing, it can't be combined with a wide swing with a lot of momentum as easily, which is what he used.
Given the ease with which he was able to swing his bankai, it wouldn't be too hard to follow up a 'stab' with such a swing.
A long-ass bankai has disadvantages sure, but it also has a number of advantages and uses, not to mention, the speed at which his shikai is 'shot' is fairly fast. Bankai probably increases that speed proportionate to the increase in length.
