The Official BLEACH series Thread

I now just read the latest chapter and I still don't know what the **** happened.

Aizen has reality warping powers but gets *****-smacked by a guy turning his reiatsu into physical power?

As for the Yammy/Starrk/Ulquiorra arguement: even if both Yammy and Starrk are>>>>Ulquiorra overall in power, the fact remains that Ulquiorra proved that he was a worthy cuatro espada. Starrk was a shitty primera(Kubo and fan are partially responsible) and Yammy has yet to prove he's the cero espada. That's about it for that.

Starrk wasn't that bad- he pwned two vizards and was able to hold off both senior captains for awhile.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I now just read the latest chapter and I still don't know what the **** happened.

Aizen has reality warping powers but gets *****-smacked by a guy turning his reiatsu into physical power?

Originally posted by Q99
Starrk wasn't that bad- he pwned two vizards and was able to hold off both senior captains for awhile.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix

Secondly, if you think Yammy is >> Starrk because Yammy is #0 & Starrk is #1, then Starrk is >>>>>> Ulquiorra as he is #4. 😐

There's nothing to indicate Ulquiorra was the strongest. Barragan would slap him silly without breaking a sweat.

Stark>>>Ulq....only bec no one knew about his second transformation....he's the only espada with a 2nd form that gives him a power boost

Originally posted by Q99
What? Fairy Tail's awesome! And gets more-so as it goes on.

It reminds me of One Piece in a lot of ways (art-style most notably, also in being reasonably formulaic but good at the formula so it's fun enough you don't care). Not quite OP's level, but what is? IMO a lot higher than Bleach. And rare for a shounen fight series, it has a bunch of badass female characters.

Which first villain are you thinking of? Some of the early ones are kinda weak (intro arcs and all), but by, say, Phantom Lord, the villains are generally awesome.

darkness and Gerard. I hate it.

Originally posted by jltruth
Stark>>>Ulq....only bec no one knew about his second transformation....he's the only espada with a 2nd form that gives him a power boost

Once again. NO. You should at least do your research before you go off saying things like this. Yammy has two forms as well. And Stark was still stronger than Ulq in his 2nd form.

Shit chapter. Stark is the strongest espada. Methinks Kubo knows more than you.

And lets be honest, both Ulquiorra and Grimmjow sucked

I liked both Ulq, and Grimmjow, however they don't compare to Stark or Barry for that matter.

Originally posted by Kaibs
Eh... man a soul can either go to SS, or be a hollow pending on how it was in the real world. Then said soul if it does go to SS can become a hollow after it dies or be a human again in the real world. It's all a recycle of rebirth in Bleach.

What you stated is correct.

However...

That has nothing to do with what you stated and with what I replied with.

Originally posted by Kaibs
And as said if you look at the databook there is an insane resemblance between the two. Plus in the TBTP arc the 11th squad captain wasn't even shown.

That's actually pretty cool...but now bridge the gap from what you said above and what I said in my last reply. If you can do that, you'll have a believer out of me.

Originally posted by Kaibs
Ichigo was definitely not Mid-Tier when he fought Kenpachi. He was low at best. He only won because he had help from Zangetsu and nothing more. When he beat Byakuya who once again didn't even use all of his abilities he might of then been Mid-Tier. You seem to know your stuff good so I mean it's obvious you should know he only advanced in both fights due to PIS.

Ichigo was definitely mid-tier as Baldy was already very low tier captain level. Ichigo also beat a captain that could beat two captains at once...so by the end, he was upper mid-tier to high tier. pwned. 🙂

Originally posted by Kaibs
And when he got his hollow mask to become a Vizard he then rose to high mid-tier. He was definitely not stronger than any of the high tier captains, Urahara, Isshin, or Yourichi.

See, that's the problem: you're wrong.

Kuchiki is high tier: one of the strongest, fatest, and high proficiency kidou users. (Databook agrees with that, as well.)

When Ichigo went hollow mask, he started wiping the floor with Kuchiki. 🙂

Originally posted by Kaibs
H2 was by far NOT stronger than any captain that is just crazy talk.

It sure is.

By destruction feats, currently, second release Ulq and H2 Ichigo are the strongest characters in Bleach, thus far, by far. 😐

Check this out: all fire/attacks released from Yamamoto's Zanpakutou would have destroyed an area a bit larger than Kakura town.

Do you understand that? A bit larger...

The destruction feats by Ulq and H2 Ichigo are much greater than all the attacks Yamamoto's Zanpakutou ever released and their attacks were single release attacks, not all the attacks they've ever produced ever.

Now do you understand where you've misinterpretted events?

Originally posted by Kaibs
Yamamoto's shikai alone could probably annihilate H2.

Not even close.

Originally posted by Kaibs
Same with Shunsui's.

Shunsui would be an ant compared to H2 Ichigo. He wouldn't even register as a threat. Second release Ulq and H2 ichigo are on such higher power levels that a comparison to any Soul Society captain is a bit absurd.

Originally posted by Kaibs
H2 fought Ulq who was VL level, and the 4th Espada. Don't make it seem like he owned the shit out of God or something. Gin toyed with Ichigo.

Okay, while baseless, you are now indicating that H2 Ichigo and second release Ulq were Vasto Lorde. You do know that VL levels are stronger than captains, right? So you just admitted to being wrong, indirectly.

To you second point, you really missed the point of what I was talking about, by far. My point was NOT how strong Ichigo was, but how strong he should have been, had Kubo kept power-scaling in proper order.

Originally posted by Kaibs
His bankai gives him a speed boost only for the most part man...not power itself like other Bankais.

However with Ichigo's current power up from the Dangai.... it's looking as if he's finally stronger than Aizen which would inturn put him above Senior Captain level below Yamamoto. But we'll see.

LOL, you have this thing for Yamamoto, obviously.

To think that Aizen and Ichigo are anywhere near Yamamoto is rediculous, but to say that Ichigo is beneath Yamamoto, at this point, is hilarious.

Let us not talk about ichifag and and emoboy

Originally posted by King Kandy
To be honest, i'm actually surprised that i'm enjoying this fight. I guess anything where Aizen is losing is enough to get me excited.

Ditto.

One of the best chapters in a looooooooong time. Loved the crap out of it. The last two chapters have been awesome.

Kubo has redeemed himself, in my eyes. I will buy the manga of this fight, when it comes out in the US, if Kubo makes it end well.

Originally posted by jltruth
Don't forget that non of the other espada's including aizen new about ulq second form which possibly could have put him above stark.

Ulq 2nd form>>>> Stark

By feats, yes, that is very accurate. Yammy seemed to be the only one that was aware of his second release.

Originally posted by Kaibs
Ulq's 2nd form doesn't even come close to Barry let alone Stark. He surpasses Haribel though. Lanzo is way to inaccurate and Stark is way faster than Ulq. Not to mention his wolves, and the 1000 ceros would just annihilate Ulq.

Oh, I see, now. It makes sense: you have a thing for some characters and aren't thinking logically.

No, Ulq would tank 1000 ceros without any damage at all.

Ulq, first form, is far more durable than Shunsui. First release? yeah...

Second release??????? Why is it even debatable?

Originally posted by Kaibs
Haha alright... whatever you say mate. That's just fanboyism working at it's best right there.

Incorrect. The only fanboyism I've seen was from you. Implying that Current ichigo is below Yamamoto is just really d*mn funny.

Originally posted by amnesia
Shit chapter. Stark is the strongest espada. Methinks Kubo knows more than you.

And lets be honest, both Ulquiorra and Grimmjow sucked

How is that possible when Ulq had a second release that was secret? Me thinks Kubo knows more than you. 😄

Originally posted by amnesia
Let us not talk about ichifag and and emoboy

Kenpachi, Yamamoto, then Ichigo...in that order.

Then you're wrong.

I honestly thinik I'm the only one that doesn't want neither Ichigo nor Aizen to win. I'd be just fine if they both killed each other at this point.

I'm still ticked that the main villain is a butterfly and Ichigo can't die.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I honestly thinik I'm the only one that doesn't want neither Ichigo nor Aizen to win. I'd be just fine if they both killed each other at this point.

That is a good outcome.

Screw you both!!!!!!!!!!

Ichigo 4evah!

Why do you like him?

Fo serial.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Why do you like him?

Fo serial.

Cause his ninja way...I mean shinigami way is to never back down, always fight for his loved ones and for what is right, etc. He's like naruto....I mean forest gump except smarter.

Also, it's because he is so powerful at such a young age: defiantely becoming uber powerful in about a year that even after a thousands years, the most arrogant and powerful of the shinigami, could not reach.

I didn't like the Soul Society's arrogant rule attitude so it was nice to see Ichigo basically take a crap all over everything.

Also, the fact the Ichigo gets the best power ups, cool scenes, etc.

If you don't like Ichigo, then you are not being manipulated by Kubo, properly.

Well I just see him as a more boring and less interesting Yusuke Urameshi, honestly. 😐