Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm not entirely sure what the petals did. Increase his speed? Did they add cutting power to his hand?
No, when Byakuya 'punched' he opened his hand and a bunch of them blew through Tsukishima's chest (at least as I read it).
He probably didn't actually strike, he just got his hand close enough to release them point-blank.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I agree. You guys are forgetting that he had to gash his whole arm grabbing some of his petals to be able to do that. He obviously couldn't have just of done that whenever he wanted to.
Is that sarcasm? It's hard to tell. It seems like you're saying, "facepalm Dudes, he obviously could have grabbed some petals at any point in time after being cut."
Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm not entirely sure what the petals did. Increase his speed? Did they add cutting power to his hand?
It allowed him to gaaaaay it up with a final strike. I'm not joking. Kubo wants Sea Shell Head to be as teh ghey as possible. Also, there's the problem of Byakuya having really high reiatsu: his "body" would be rather hard...we saw Renji's sword fall apart on his flesh (debatable) but his spiritual pressure is comprable to Kenpachi's by an "on-panel" witness. So his body should be rather invulnerable and only someone with high reiatsu should be able to cut him....
None of the Fullbringers qualify. 😐
PIS.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Is that sarcasm? It's hard to tell. It seems like you're saying, "facepalm Dudes, he obviously could have grabbed some petals at any point in time after being cut."It allowed him to gaaaaay it up with a final strike. I'm not joking. Kubo wants Sea Shell Head to be as teh ghey as possible. Also, there's the problem of Byakuya having really high reiatsu: his "body" would be rather hard...we saw Renji's sword fall apart on his flesh (debatable) but his spiritual pressure is comprable to Kenpachi's by an "on-panel" witness. So his body should be rather invulnerable and only someone with high reiatsu should be able to cut him....
None of the Fullbringers qualify. 😐
PIS.
Even George Lucas judges you!
Originally posted by NemeBro
Tsukishima obviously has high reitsu.The notion that he shouldn't be able to cut him is based on... Well not a lot really.
Tsukishima did pretty well against a Captain level opponent all things considered.
And before the fight Kenpachi said he looked strong while his own foe looked like a joke. Given that Kenny likely has a lot of experience judging who's strong, that says something.
Ultimately it was still pretty one-sided, only needing one hit to win, but he was no joke.
Originally posted by Q99That would make sense if not for the fact that his fist was closed. If the petals were hidden inside his clenched fist, how would they do any damage?
No, when Byakuya 'punched' he opened his hand and a bunch of them blew through Tsukishima's chest (at least as I read it).He probably didn't actually strike, he just got his hand close enough to release them point-blank.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Tsukishima obviously has high reitsu.
Oh really?
Prove it. Because at no point is his felt with any sort of pressure.
Kubo just abandoned that, almost completely.
Originally posted by NemeBro
The notion that he shouldn't be able to cut him is based on... Well not a lot really.
The notion that they should be able to cut those captains is based on...not a lot really.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Tsukishima did pretty well against a Captain level opponent all things considered.
Yeah, with a broken ability that is literally a reality warper and with PIS AND CIS.
I would argue that Tsukishima's attacks would be at the very least at Chad's level. And Chad appeared to have been able to hurt captains if his attacks actually hit them. He's just too slow, which is a problem Tsukishima wouldn't have.
Originally posted by dadudemonThe on-panel evidence disagrees with you
Oh really?Prove it. Because at no point is his felt with any sort of pressure.
Kubo just abandoned that, almost completely.
The notion that they should be able to cut those captains is based on...not a lot really.
Yeah, with a broken ability that is literally a reality warper and with PIS AND CIS.
I don't recall Zommari's reitsu ever being outright stated or shown to be particularly high.
I guess he shouldn't of been able to cut Byakuya either.
Originally posted by NemeBro
The on-panel evidence disagrees with you
It does? Cause...no. I searched and could not find reiatsu expression from any of the Fullbringers.
Even when Ichigo was obviously lower in level than some of the other captains, you could still see it. Then Unohana was like, "Zomg! Captain level pressure!" And Ichigo was like, "I"m damaged...only at half." Then she splooged.
We didn't even get a mention of their spiritual pressure. where is it? AHA!
Originally posted by NemeBro
I don't recall Zommari's reitsu ever being outright stated or shown to be particularly high.
That doesn't matter since he was an 8 from the Espada. We already had a general idea that they were really strong and some pressure was already felt concerning them. Additionally, many of us suspected that they were Vasto Lorde...which were supposed to be more powerful than the captains (it turned out that some were)
Originally posted by NemeBro
I guess he shouldn't of been able to cut Byakuya either.
That's correct. Just because you can manipulate the memories of souls around you, does not mean you possess the spiritual power enough to cut someone far superior to you. 🙂
Originally posted by dadudemonYep.
It does?
The notion that we have to have DBZ-esque statements of power level to justify Tsukishima being able to hurt a Captain is laughable. His only gaugable feat is hurting a Captain (Harming and fighting with Fullbringer Ichigo isn't really quantifiable as we had no idea of his strength and still mostly don't), therefore he obviously can.