The Official BLEACH series Thread

1. I just copy pasted it from Nemebro. 😐

2. Ulq has higher spiritual power than Stark? Since when? And what makes you think Aizen knew about it? Or that even if he did, he would choose to reveal it?

3. Aairenenero has thousands of abilities. Surely its possible that he has one that masks his true power. Or does he even need to? No-one seemed to know Aizen was really god-like in his power. Szayel is a possible exception. Exceptions do not make the rules.

I know nothing except that you're a smug jackass. And that gets you tap water at best. crackers

Originally posted by Nephthys
1. I just copy pasted it from Nemebro. 😐

2. Ulq has higher spiritual power than Stark? Since when? And what makes you think Aizen knew about it? Or that even if he did, he would choose to reveal it?

3. Aairenenero has thousands of abilities. Surely its possible that he has one that masks his true power. Or does he even need to? No-one seemed to know Aizen was really god-like in his power. Szayel is a possible exception. Exceptions do not make the rules.

I know nothing except that you're a smug jackass. And that gets you tap water at best. crackers

Awesome, numbers.

1. You're a stupid head, then. uhuh

2. Ishida is probably one of the smartest and most "sensing" of the highschool kids. He never remarked about any of the captains having an "ocean" of reiatsu. Nor did he ever comment about their reiatsu being so vast as to be something almost entirely different. Yet, Shunsui seemed to fight on even ground with Starrk for the most part. They were quite a bit a way from Ichigo and Ulq when he made those statements.

But let's continue. His reiatsu is so dense and heavy that it literally falls to the ground like rain in just his first release:

http://www.mangareader.net/94-799-14/bleach/chapter-345.html

The only other person with tangible reiatsu that we saw like that (other than Aizen...most likely) is Yamamoto whose reiatsu is tangible in the form of fire.

That or Ulq just rubbed one out and give Ichigo the biggest but also grossest bukkake, ever.

Here is an image to support the notion that Ishida is really far away:

http://www.mangareader.net/94-800-9/bleach/chapter-346.html

Here they are on the way to the top:

http://www.mangareader.net/94-802-8/bleach/chapter-348.html

http://www.mangareader.net/94-802-9/bleach/chapter-348.html

The reiatsu is so dense that it darkens everything around them. That is the greatest show of reiatsu in all of the series because there appears to be no end in site for how much pure reiatsu Ulq has in his second release. That vastly eclipses that fire reiatsu of Yamamoto.

And here Ishida goes describing Ulq's reiatsu. It is vastly superior to anything in Soul Society. 🙂

http://www.mangareader.net/94-802-10/bleach/chapter-348.html

One more of these, for good measure: 🙂

Also, to put it into perspective: Starrk's reiatsu was great enough to kill lesser hollow around him. Yamamoto's was enough to cause a Lieutenant level to not be able to breath (and possible die from it). So we have a general idea of Starrk being somewhere below Yamamoto in power (because a Lieutenant is vastly more powerful than basic hollow).

The power is enough to make Ichigo shake (but he can still breath) and Ichigo is definitely at captain class by this point.

http://www.mangareader.net/94-802-12/bleach/chapter-348.html

They finally reach the top, many pages later even after Ishida says they have to hurry up to get to Ichigo:

http://www.mangareader.net/94-802-21/bleach/chapter-348.html

It is not obvious why Ulq has more reiatsu, at this point, than Starrk (and possibly Yamamoto). It caused Ishida and Inoue to sweat and shit themselves when they were considerably far away from the top of the dome.

Finally, of all the attacks, on Ulq has come close to or exceeded the size of Yamamoto's attack:

http://www.mangareader.net/94-805-11/bleach/chapter-351.html

Keep in mind the size of Los Noches is so immense that going from one place to a gate would take 3 days. They also ran towards it for a long ass time to the point of being tired, and it did not appear any closer. Likely, it is like a very large city. Possibly larger than any human city in the real world. This may mean that Ulq's super duper lightning lance attack is more powerful than anything save it be for Aizen's gay stuff and Ichigo's gay stuff.

That was a whole lot of explaining. weep

3. Thousands or is it a thousand? There's lots of useless and redundant abilities that he could possibly have. What if one of his abilities is to make light bulbs turn off? What if it is making clovers grow 3 times faster? What if it is to make water spell things? What if one is to make metal make certain sounds?

There's an endless amount of abilities that are virtually useless. We can only assume that so we can pretend Kubo is not a complete idiot. And Szayel IS an exception. So is arearelkdflka jsljwoieur. They are exceptions because they have other qualities that make them have awesome combat abilities. 😄

I would agree with you if you said, "Smug fatass". estahuh

Uh....well about the whole Ulquiorra thing. If Aizen ranked them based on Rieryoku then how the hell did Ulquiorra's first release seem to give off more power than Halibel's. Unless by some indirect way Kubo was trying to make Toshiro>>>Hollow Ichigo?

And for the Aaroniero thing, I didn't think he completely sucked: well his concept anyway. I mean he had every advantage over Rukia but for some reason decided to show his hand instead.

Uryu has also become pretty scrubbish but I guess he made a valid observation.

Oh and then there's the lance thing which is probably one of the less accurate attacks in the series. Well considering H2 Ichigo broke it with his bare hand's I don't thin it was supremely more powerful than Yamamoto's stuff.

Guys it is obvious Wonderweiss is the strongest Arrancar in the series.

He beat up two vizards and got pwned by Yamamoto. Though he was able to conquer the most powerful zanpakuto in the series so maybe your right.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Awesome, numbers.

1. You're a stupid head, then. uhuh

I was smart enough to impress you, wasn't I? Doesn't that make you even more stupider?

Originally posted by dadudemon
2. Ishida is probably one of the smartest and most "sensing" of the highschool kids. He never remarked about any of the captains having an "ocean" of reiatsu. Nor did he ever comment about their reiatsu being so vast as to be something almost entirely different. Yet, Shunsui seemed to fight on even ground with Starrk for the most part. They were quite a bit a way from Ichigo and Ulq when he made those statements.

But let's continue. His reiatsu is so dense and heavy that it literally falls to the ground like rain in just his first release:

http://www.mangareader.net/94-799-14/bleach/chapter-345.html

The only other person with tangible reiatsu that we saw like that (other than Aizen...most likely) is Yamamoto whose reiatsu is tangible in the form of fire.

That or Ulq just rubbed one out and give Ichigo the biggest but also grossest bukkake, ever.

Nooooooooooooo............. Just because someone has emo-rain on his release doesn't mean hes incredibly powerful. When Ichigo transforms into Hollow Mode 2 he just stands up. Theres isn't even a fancy explosion. And the Ichigo in that form was even stronger than Ulq. Much stronger in fact.

Besides, is that really his reiatsu. Alot of weird stuff happens when someone releases. Byakuya ddin't get a massive explosion like Ichigo. Does that mean he was tons weaker than him at the time?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Here is an image to support the notion that Ishida is really far away:

http://www.mangareader.net/94-800-9/bleach/chapter-346.html

Dunno the point of this considering he's way closer when he sense it.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Here they are on the way to the top:

http://www.mangareader.net/94-802-8/bleach/chapter-348.html

http://www.mangareader.net/94-802-9/bleach/chapter-348.html

The reiatsu is so dense that it darkens everything around them. That is the greatest show of reiatsu in all of the series because there appears to be no end in site for how much pure reiatsu Ulq has in his second release. That vastly eclipses that fire reiatsu of Yamamoto.

Really? Surely having your reiatsu be so dense it actually transforms into liquid is better than mere darkness. Thats a level 0 spell dude. Tieflings start out with it!

Originally posted by dadudemon
And here Ishida goes describing Ulq's reiatsu. It is vastly superior to anything in Soul Society. 🙂

http://www.mangareader.net/94-802-10/bleach/chapter-348.html

You mean the part where he says it isn't even reiatsu at all? Yeah, thanks for posting that part.

Plus they could have just not of been flexing their power around him. you'll notice that for how awesome Ulqs power is Ishida can still fight him. Hell, ****ing Orihime can still walk around fine next to him. So much for 'its leik a black emo-ocean!'

Originally posted by dadudemon
One more of these, for good measure: 🙂

Also, to put it into perspective: Starrk's reiatsu was great enough to kill lesser hollow around him. Yamamoto's was enough to cause a Lieutenant level to not be able to breath (and possible die from it). So we have a general idea of Starrk being somewhere below Yamamoto in power (because a Lieutenant is vastly more powerful than basic hollow).

The power is enough to make Ichigo shake (but he can still breath) and Ichigo is definitely at captain class by this point.

http://www.mangareader.net/94-802-12/bleach/chapter-348.html

I don't think its the power thats making him shake. I thinks its just that he's obviously just about to die.

Originally posted by dadudemon
It is not obvious why Ulq has more reiatsu, at this point, than Starrk (and possibly Yamamoto). It caused Ishida and Inoue to sweat and shit themselves when they were considerably far away from the top of the dome.

I personally don't think he does. And even if he did, how does that prove they were in order by combat ability/ Surely considering you r next point, Ulq qould be at the top. Unless....

Originally posted by dadudemon
Finally, of all the attacks, on Ulq has come close to or exceeded the size of Yamamoto's attack:

http://www.mangareader.net/94-805-11/bleach/chapter-351.html

Keep in mind the size of Los Noches is so immense that going from one place to a gate would take 3 days. They also ran towards it for a long ass time to the point of being tired, and it did not appear any closer. Likely, it is like a very large city. Possibly larger than any human city in the real world. This may mean that Ulq's super duper lightning lance attack is more powerful than anything save it be for Aizen's gay stuff and Ichigo's gay stuff.

That was a whole lot of explaining. weep

Not everythings about raw destructive power. Grimmjaw has better raw destructive feats than Base Aizen and yet Aizen made him brown his undies with a casual flex of his power. Hell, Soi Fon has better raw destructive feats. And she utterly failed to even pierce his skin (or did she? >:] ). Starks reiatsu level is so high he accidentally kills those around him. And he's not even that great feat-wise.

Originally posted by dadudemon
3. Thousands or is it a thousand? There's lots of useless and redundant abilities that he could possibly have. What if one of his abilities is to make light bulbs turn off? What if it is making clovers grow 3 times faster? What if it is to make water spell things? What if one is to make metal make certain sounds?

There's an endless amount of abilities that are virtually useless. We can only assume that so we can pretend Kubo is not a complete idiot.

I'm just point out why 'she sensed him and he was rotally weak' isn't a flawless argument considering all the unknown powers he has.

http://www.mangareader.net/94-58741-8/bleach/chapter-427.html

Ha. Perverse thoughts.

Ew, Aura! Why would anyone eat their own poop?

List the Bleach good guys you'd like to see die in the future.

Okay um....lets see here:

1. Vizards if the ever show up again, barring Hachi
2. Lieutenants that participated but didn't die in war
3. Toshiro, cause his victroy over Halibel annoyed me
4. Ikkaku for being turned into a douche
5. Kenpachi...in manly glory at the hands of an awesome opponent.
6. Orihime....so the threat of death is actually available again.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I was smart enough to impress you, wasn't I? Doesn't that make you even more stupider?

No because plagierism is virtually impossible to detect in the format of this discussion since it is a single word used in the same exact fictional story all of us are reading. There was no way for me to know that you did not know the word because you used it correctly in the sentence you presented. I could not know that you just copied and pasted it from Neme's post who was responding to a post that I had used it correctly in.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Nooooooooooooo............. Just because someone has emo-rain on his release doesn't mean hes incredibly powerful. When Ichigo transforms into Hollow Mode 2 he just stands up. Theres isn't even a fancy explosion. And the Ichigo in that form was even stronger than Ulq. Much stronger in fact.

1. You did not counter my point at all and, instead, you are taking it on a tangent. This is known as a red herring.

2. To actually address your post: why isn't Ichigo flexing his reiatsu? That's easy: because he's virtually a mindless creature and has no intention of flexing his reiatsu. Notice that Ulq only flexes his when he releases, each time...and then it dissipates? It's probably because it is a massive waste to continue to do that. 😄

Originally posted by Nephthys
Besides, is that really his reiatsu. Alot of weird stuff happens when someone releases. Byakuya ddin't get a massive explosion like Ichigo. Does that mean he was tons weaker than him at the time?

I lol'd. So you're actually trying to prove my point, for me? Well, I'm glad you agree with me.

As fact, Kuchiki's and Ichigo's reiatsu not only becomes visible, later, but it clashes and creates a giant energy cloudy thing that can be seen from quite far away. So, to answer your question...they were about the same but YES! Ichigo is VASTLY superior to Kuchiki but he cannot control his rieryoku well enough to use it at that point in time. He also did not master his hollow forms (which we found out about later).

Originally posted by Nephthys
Dunno the point of this considering he's way closer when he sense it.

Because he's still quite far away and it still seems to envelope the entire area below them. I made that point clear in my post. Problem? 😄

Originally posted by Nephthys
Really? Surely having your reiatsu be so dense it actually transforms into liquid is better than mere darkness.

Yes most especially if you consider the volume of one over the other.

The darkness drops quite low (it falls fairly quickly)...and expands quite far. Meaning, it is denser than the air around it just the same as the raining reiatsu. You could compare it to fog if you wanted to. It is colloidal meaning the droplets of liquid reiatsu are smaller. Overall, the density is not largely different than that ouf the same volume of the rain because the rain includes a lot of air around it, too. If you consider that the volume of the darkened area is hundreds of thousands to to millions of times greater than the liquid form, the difference in expressed "reiatsu" is astoundingly greater than the liquid form.

I espected you to realize that without having to explain it because it was more words. I used the scans to speak for me. Those should have been the end of it. You're only supposed to say, "OMG! WTF!!!?!?!? That's a lot of emo splooge".

Originally posted by Nephthys
You mean the part where he says it isn't even reiatsu at all? Yeah, thanks for posting that part.

So you're just going to take his words out of context and pretend to be right?

At least you're being up front about being a baby when proved wrong. 😐

Originally posted by Nephthys
you'll notice that for how awesome Ulqs power is Ishida can still fight him.

"Notice that Ulq only flexes his when he releases, each time...and then it dissipates? It's probably because it is a massive waste to continue to do that. 😄"

"It caused Ishida and Inoue to sweat and shit themselves when they were considerably far away from the top of the dome."

Originally posted by Nephthys
Hell, ****ing Orihime can still walk around fine next to him. So much for 'its leik a black emo-ocean!'

"It caused Ishida and Inoue to sweat and shit themselves when they were considerably far away from the top of the dome."

Originally posted by Nephthys
I don't think its the power thats making him shake. I thinks its just that he's obviously just about to die.

http://www.mangareader.net/94-802-13/bleach/chapter-348.html

Originally posted by Nephthys
I personally don't think he does.

Sometimes, opinions are just wrong and this is one of those times that your opinion is wrong.

Originally posted by Nephthys
And even if he did, how does that prove they were in order by combat ability/ Surely considering you r next point, Ulq qould be at the top. Unless...

I guesss you glossed over the part where Ulq says that he's the only one that can second release and no one has seen that form including Aizen- the person that ranked them?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Not everythings about raw destructive power. Grimmjaw has better raw destructive feats than Base Aizen and yet Aizen made him brown his undies with a casual flex of his power.

So I guess you forgot about the part where Aizen can casually cast high level kido?

Just because he lacks the feats, doesn't mean he can't do it. He could easily destroy more stuff, in an instant, much grander than ol' Grimmy. Even as a younger dude, he cast a level 90+ kidu blocking spell that had an incoming attack that was grander than anything Grimmy did.

Oh, hai 2 u:

YouTube video

Originally posted by Nephthys
Starks reiatsu level is so high he accidentally kills those around him. And he's not even that great feat-wise.

I place the waste of rieryoku like that on par with Kenpachi and Ichigo: they have so much of it and so little control that it leaks out.

When Ichigio masters his final form, nothing can be felt. He had perfect control and compressed it to the point that nothing leaked out. Aizen was different: his was leaking out like the Hoover damn had busted open. That was the difference. It can be argued that Ichigo had more rieryoku, quite easily, than Aizen's various gay forms...yet he didn't leak a single drop.

That's all reiatsu is: the flexing of rieryoku by letting it flow out.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm just point out why 'she sensed him and he was rotally weak' isn't a flawless argument considering all the unknown powers he has.

I'll just point out that it is a weak argument that he should be powerful based on absorbing hundreds to thousands of others and their abilities: he wasn't that strong because he matched the reiatsu of Shiba.

Rukia is around Lieutenant level. I don't see her cowering before the power of a lieutenant level Espada. Sure, he was stupid, but he's not as powerful as you guys want him to be. He couldn't go into the light, either.

There's a reason his weak ass was defeated by a lieutenant: he's got several weaknesses which include only being two heads.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
List the Bleach good guys you'd like to see die in the future.

Probably Ikkaku since he's quite possibly the dumbest person in the series. The guy risked an awful lot of lives in Karakura Town during the FKT arc when he had to hide his Bankai which costed him the pillar he was supposed to protect just because he's afraid of being in a higher rank if people like Yammamoto knew and almost took the secret to his grave were it not for Sajin Komamura saving his dumbass from Choe Neng Poww. IMO, he should've died right there and I think Kubo broke the rules when he kept him alive this whole time for when someone is cocky and selfish, they should meet a gruesome demise.

You trying to get on my good side Nemesis? Cause it is working.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
Probably Ikkaku since he's quite possibly the dumbest person in the series. The guy risked an awful lot of lives in Karakura Town during the FKT arc when he had to hide his Bankai which costed him the pillar he was supposed to protect just because he's afraid of being in a higher rank if people like Yammamoto knew and almost took the secret to his grave were it not for Sajin Komamura saving his dumbass from Choe Neng Poww. IMO, he should've died right there and I think Kubo broke the rules when he kept him alive this whole time for when someone is cocky and selfish, they should meet a gruesome demise.

Of course, if they had captains there, and Yamato *was* just standing there the entire time, they could've simply one-shotted those foes. They even had a captain for backup rather than a pillar guard.

And what about the other Vice Captains (1st company, Yachiru, Nanao), 3rd seats, etc.? Even with the 11th company, who prefers to fight solo, you could have them defend sequentially.

Who's really worse, the one who holds back one ability out of pride but otherwise fight to his best (and who isn't that good with the one ability anyway), or the ones who could end all those petty fights with ease/ensured that the failure of one member didn't leave a hole in the defense?

Not to mention, the more notable, much more senior people with command authority who didn't use their bankai and with more powerful ones, Shunsui, Ukitake, Urahara, etc..

Quite frankly, there should've been a blanket "everyone uses their bankai" rule, as well as more forces there. The Soul Society was still holding back considerably, and Ikkaku was hardly the worst offender since he's one of the two lowest ranked people on the entire field; he's not in a command position, nor was his buddy peacock, but everyone else was.

Captains had to deal with the Espada, it was Ikkaku's job to protect his pillar. He failed because he held back. And I'm aware the other captains were stupidly holding back, for whatever reason. But Shunsui's sword is apparently a ***** so not much can be done about that. Ukitake was taken out rather quickly however his shikai seemed to be the perfect type to fight Starrk. Besides, you usually hold back until the enemy escalates the battle, which is what Toshiro and Soifon did.

Ikkaku was charged with protecting the pillar and let it fall. His opponent knew he was holding back and wanted to see his trump card. Ikkaku's fight was one on one, Shinsui's wasn't. Shinsui can afford to be more patient. Ikkaku couldn't.

Why was there only one guard per pillar in the first place, though?

And I'll note that Ikkaku and Yumichika were selected for the jobs based on their demonstrated, non-bankai/true-shikai strengths, they were deployed with the idea that that'd be enough.

There's still a definite failure in command/deployment here.

Not seeing the Ikkaku fight, we also don't exactly know how it went, but considering that Poww beat him without releasing or suffering a wound in return and that Poww had a *very* strong release, we must also consider it likely that Ikkaku probably simply wasn't strong enough to beat Poww period.

Shunsui at least had the excuse of not using his Bankai because it would be extremely dangerous to use in the presence of so many allies.

But yeah, Yamamoto should of just wrecked house. There was no reason for him to wait to fight Aizen.

Dunno. Why was a 5th seat chosen when there were other lieutenants? Soul Society is dumb. Yamamoto should have been there alone and nuked the bad guys the minute they showed up. Didn't.

But I don't agree with that last part. Ikkaku's Bankai is fairly powerful. Poww was beaten rather quickly once Doggy pulled out his Bankai.

Sajin is still a Captain, and much stronger than Ikkaku.

Po beat down Ikkaku using his Shikai unarmed.

Sajin tossed Po's released form like a ragdoll barehanded.

And to be fair, Yumichika is technically the fourth seat. Though yeah, Yamamoto being a lazy dick is inexcusable.

I don't know. Sajin is so unloved, I wouldn't be surprised if Ikkaku was stronger than him.

I'm only half kidding here. Does Kubo just hate Dog face? Every time someone needs to be established as strong, they kick his ass. Or Hitsugaya's but at least he is able to get a win or two.