Originally posted by NemeBro
No tl;dr?I am almost insulted.
No, I read it. Seemed like information you know that I already know. In fact, you seem to make the same case as I made at the end.
But, sure, tell me more. Persuade me to believe you are not subscribing solely to some moral absolute ideal (not idea because it seems like you feel your position is supremely absolute/perfect which is not the same thing as an "idea"😉.
Originally posted by dadudemonI believe we had a failure to communicate earlier. I interpreted your use of "solely" as referring to my own moral beliefs in general.
No, I read it. Seemed like information you know that I already know. In fact, you seem to make the same case as I made at the end.But, sure, tell me more. Persuade me to believe you are not subscribing solely to some moral absolute ideal (not idea because it seems like you feel your position is supremely absolute/perfect which is not the same thing as an "idea"😉.
But in this case, yeah, I am subscribing to the belief that some of Mayuri's actions are wholly, absolutely evil, regardless of why they were done.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I believe we had a failure to communicate earlier. I interpreted your use of "solely" as referring to my own moral beliefs in general.
In a brief, text based, conversation on the internet? No way. awesome
But, yeah, you're probably right.
Originally posted by NemeBro
But in this case, yeah, I am subscribing to the belief that some of Mayuri's actions are wholly, absolutely evil, regardless of why they were done.
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Originally posted by dadudemon
Yup, you do. This is why you fail.If you think what he has done, ever, is wrong, you are a moral
absolutistuniversalist. 🙂
Absolutism is a refusal to allow leeway in a moral system.
Universalism is the impulse to extend a single moral system into other situations.
!Relativism = Universalism
!Universalism != Absolutism
Originally posted by Zampanó
fixedAbsolutism is a refusal to allow leeway in a moral system.
Universalism is the impulse to extend a single moral system into other situations.!Relativism = Universalism
!Universalism != Absolutism
Incorrect. You made my post wrong by changing it.
It would be absolutism because he believes his moral assessment to be objectively correct. AKA, absolute.
Nemebro believes that what Mayuri has done is wrong regardless of the situation. That's the very definition of moral absolutism.
"Moral Absolutism is the ethical belief that there are absolute standards against which moral questions can be judged, and that certain actions are right or wrong, regardless of the context of the act.
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It holds that morals are inherent in the laws of the universe, the nature of humanity, the will of God or some other fundamental source."
Also, I do not like moral universalism because it is actually a different flavor of moral relativism wrapped up in a disguise that it is moral absolutism with limits. It's not. It is limited to an anthropic interpretation making it not truly a moral "universalism". It wants to pretend to be moral absolutism...sometimes, but it lacks the objective base that absolutism can stand on (because it can appeal to a higher power or source that is supposedly objective in nature). Basically, it's moral relativism with an anthropic restriction.
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