The Official BLEACH series Thread

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Agreed.

What? He can't turn off his own powers? It might be that they affect him, but it's ridiculous that by accidentally attacking himself, he got caught up in some bullshit loop which he couldn't escape.

Think about it: It's like firing a Cero. The person firing it is not necessarily immune to the Cero.

It's like any attack. If Goku punched himself, I'm sure he could hurt himself.

Why WOULD he be able to turn off that power? It's like an ooze mist that dissipates.

His ability prevents anything from happening to him. Kido, attacks. Everything crumbles before him, as he said. He is uber. Tough to beat someone like that in anyway. No way to attack. The only way to defeat him would be using his powers against him. That's not the first time, in fiction, that that has been written.

well, when you explain it like that, it doesn't sound like weak sauce anymore

Originally posted by dadudemon
Think about it: It's like firing a Cero. The person firing it is not necessarily immune to the Cero.

It's like any attack. If Goku punched himself, I'm sure he could hurt himself.

Why WOULD he be able to turn off that power? It's like an ooze mist that dissipates.

His ability prevents anything from happening to him. Kido, attacks. Everything crumbles before him, as he said. He is uber. Tough to beat someone like that in anyway. No way to attack. The only way to defeat him would be using his powers against him. That's not the first time, in fiction, that that has been written.

Those are awful analogies. Being able to punch someone does in NO WAY indicate immunity to concussive force. Being able to control fire on the other hand, would give someone reason to believe that they possess some kind of immunity. This is not always the case, but seems to be the general rule. Regardless of whether or not they are actually immune, someone with control would most certainly be able to stop it if they were in fact on fire.

Barragan being harmed by his own power can make sense. But him not being able to stop the effect, when he did so earlier, makes absolutely no sense.

Originally posted by stickman618
you've got two seasons of filler coming up

i guess it could be worse. thanks =)

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Those are awful analogies.

No. They are perfect.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Being able to punch someone does in NO WAY indicate immunity to concussive force.

And that wasn't even slightly implied in my post. But I read below to see what you meant.

However, boxers really CAN take punches that would knock out any regular person. That's because they build up a slight immunity to being knocked out. 😉

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Being able to control fire on the other hand, would give someone reason to believe that they possess some kind of immunity.

No it wouldn't. Not even the slightest. Being immune to heat and immolation up to a certain temperature would give reason to believe that they are immune to fire. 😐

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
This is not always the case, but seems to be the general rule.

Can Pyro burn himself?

The Human Torch can't...because...he literally is immune to flames. He turns himself into a flame.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Regardless of whether or not they are actually immune, someone with control would most certainly be able to stop it if they were in fact on fire.

Not if the fire started on the inside of their body IF they weren't immune to flames.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Barragan being harmed by his own power can make sense. But him not being able to stop the effect, when he did so earlier, makes absolutely no sense.

It makes perfect sense. He was tricked. It was far too late when he realized what was happening.

How would he have recognized what was happening to his body when he had never experienced his own ability before? He seemed rather whole and in tact. Ya see what I mean?

It's not the fact that he can be harmed by his own powers.

It's the fact that he is apparently unable to stop the effect.

Originally posted by dadudemon

Can Pyro burn himself?

this analogy sucks because the flames dont actually touch pyro. he doesnt expel them from his body in any way. if pyro summoned fiere out of say his fingertips but his hands could still be burned that would be stupid.

That's not the concept he's insinuating, though. He's making a point that just because Pyro can control fire that he can generate from another sourse (lighter, etc.), it doesn't mean he can't be harmed by fire if he's not prepared to react to it.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
That's not the concept he's insinuating, though. He's making a point that just because Pyro can control fire that he can generate from another sourse (lighter, etc.), it doesn't mean he can't be harmed by fire if he's not prepared to react to it.

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
this analogy sucks because the flames dont actually touch pyro. he doesnt expel them from his body in any way. if pyro summoned fiere out of say his fingertips but his hands could still be burned that would be stupid.

Nah. It works perfectly with his using fire as an example and that's it.

Arguing what you did above, as usual, is to miss the point.

In fact, Pyro cannot be harmed by any fire he's controlling. If he's not, he's burned.

Pyro works PERFECTLY in this example. To the T.

One minor difference, which does not change anything about the analogies strength, is Barringan creates his death mist/cloud/ooze stuff.

Where is yours or anyone's evidence that shows or says he can stop it once he starts it? Does he do that once, or does it just dissipate after a while?

Fact is, though, he was suprised before it was too damn late. Unlike Ichigo or Ulq, he didn't seem to be able to regen his body. I guess that's one of the drawbacks to being so powerful.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
That's not the concept he's insinuating, though. He's making a point that just because Pyro can control fire that he can generate from another sourse (lighter, etc.), it doesn't mean he can't be harmed by fire if he's not prepared to react to it.

Well said, sir. This proves that there are intelligent beings using the internet. You got the point so well, in fact, that they may think you're me. 😐 lol

Originally posted by dadudemon
Nah. It works perfectly with his using fire as an example and that's it.

Arguing what you did above, as usual, is to miss the point.

In fact, Pyro cannot be harmed by any fire he's controlling. If he's not, he's burned.

Pyro works PERFECTLY in this example. To the T.

One minor difference, which does not change anything about the analogies strength, is Barringan creates his death mist/cloud/ooze stuff.

Where is yours or anyone's evidence that shows or says he can stop it once he starts it? Does he do that once, or does it just dissipate after a while?

Fact is, though, he was suprised before it was too damn late. Unlike Ichigo or Ulq, he didn't seem to be able to regen his body. I guess that's one of the drawbacks to being so powerful.

freakin ddm...

Well i would simply think that his "Aura" of ageing would mean that he is always at the focus point where it is strongest. So imo it doesn't make sense he's NOT immune to it. Otherwise his aura should have killed him.

Guess that's just what i think.

VERY surprised Halibel outlived him.

yeah, i thought they'd die in order, 3,2 then 1

Exactly how many Bleach movies are out there in the world because I thought there were only two until I discovered that there were even more in Japan. Does anyone know if they will soon be shipped to the U.S.?

Originally posted by NemeBro
It's not the fact that he can be harmed by his own powers.

It's the fact that he is apparently unable to stop the effect.

Bingo.

I dunno if anyone is watching the new Filler Arc while we wait for the new Canon episodes of the anime, but do you think Kenpachi will play a role in the new filler?

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
freakin ddm...

Instead of provided contrary evidence, you just post a face palm picture.

And you say I troll sometimes?

If you'd like to contradict me, by all means, post an image where we see or it is said that Barringan stops his mist. On top of that, you must show that his mist doesn't affect him. (By showing, definitively, that his ist was enveloping his body...touching it, but not harming it.) Me thinks that his technique is absurdly similar to Pyro's in that, as long as HE'S controlling it, he won't get harmed.

you troll all the time. youve even admitted it a couple times.

why should i bother trying to debate with someone who irritates me? i posted a picture to better demonstrate how i felt. thats not trolling.

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
you troll all the time. youve even admitted it a couple times.

Yeah? Where? Wait, you mean you fell for that information presented by the real troll, Sorgo?

Read this if you believe idiotic B.S. like that:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f11/t515185.html

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
why should i bother trying to debate with someone who irritates me? i posted a picture to better demonstrate how i felt. thats not trolling.

I irritate you bescause I'm not an idiot who falls for your wiki knowledge and non sequitor arguments. So sue me. You either improve your abilities or don't debate at all. You can't whine that someone's a troll everytime some pwns you in an argument. You learn from your mistakes and get better.

And, yes, what you did is fundementally trolling. You made a comment that you knew would get a response and then you posted something else that you knew would get a response. Both instances are baiting and also an attempt to cause conflict: that so happens to be the fundemetnal nature of an internet troll.

There's a difference between what I do and what you just did. I make a joke for mutual amusement for both parties. You simply insult directly. I know you have a butthurt grudge, but to continue outside the current discussion shows immaturity on your part, on multiple levels. You end a discusion, that's the end of it. When you go to another thread, you don't rehash old discussions. You approach each topic, new and fresh.

Also, just so you know, making personal attacks like you did in the movie versus thread can get you banned, fairly quickly. Notice I didn't report you, because, unlike some, that stuff doesn't bother me.

whatever dude. im honestly not even going to bother ruining my mood by reading past the first statement. im gonna go ahead and put you on ignore for awhile and when you feel that you have something constructive hit me up with a PM.