Kurse vs. Classic Juggernaut

Started by Naija boy6 pages

Actually Kurse does have a better chance at BFR. He is FAR stronger than juggernaut so when it comes to a grappling match he will easily overpower him

By what measure are you using to say he's FAR stronger than the Juggernaut?

At least 4 times as strong as thor who is himself at the very least on par with jugs strengthwise.

Oh, you're using the Beyonder amped Kurse in your argument. I wasn't aware that's the version the OP was using.

He never was shown to lose that amp.

^That's true as far as I recall.

Originally posted by Naija boy
He never was shown to lose that amp.

Goodness. Marginally being stronger than someone automatically gives them a better chance at a BFR? Kurse is listed at 840lbs. Juggernaut could literally one-punch him into another time zone.

Kurse doesn't have a better chance at a BFR than Juggernaut does. Regardless, I don't see either using that tactic.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Goodness. Marginally being stronger than someone automatically gives them a better chance at a BFR? Kurse is listed at 840lbs. Juggernaut could literally one-punch him into another time zone.

Kurse doesn't have a better chance at a BFR than Juggernaut does. Regardless, I don't see either using that tactic.

HE isnt marginally stronger than him. He is FAR stronger than him. Further resorting to the punch argument doesnt work. When bricks fight they are clearly able to brace themselves for punches and avoid being hit miles away if not each fight would be over with the first punch.

He's marginally stronger. Juggernaut was able to overpower the strongest Hulk we've seen to date.

From what I recall even barring the amp Kurse was already twice as strong as Thor from the get go...

^Yup.

In the end he was four times as strong. Kurse is far stronger than Juggernaut. To say otherwise is stupid.

He was amped once to be double than Thor then he was amped a second time to be 4 times stronger.

Juggernaut didnt overpower WWH at all. I dont know where u saw that. He pushed him back using his momentum (unstoppable enchantment) which is entirely different from his physical strength. Heck the fact that WWH nearly brought him to a halt (some argue he did) isnt the best of showings for him.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
He's marginally stronger. Juggernaut was able to overpower the strongest Hulk we've seen to date.

Far stronger. His feats don't make that non debatable and he really didn't do anything that impressive that an angry of Savage Hulk could not in terms of strength. Just saying....

Originally posted by Naija boy
Juggernaut didnt overpower WWH at all. I dont know where u saw that. He pushed him back using his momentum (unstoppable enchantment) which is entirely different from his physical strength. Heck the fact that WWH nearly brought him to a halt (some argue he did) isnt the best of showings for him.

It was a test of strength. The author of that very story confirmed this.

from a physical standpoint, how in the hell do the kurse supporters expect him to get through juggy's force field? afterall, he'd have to get through that before he could ever get a chance to 'BFR' [lol] juggy.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
It was a test of strength. The author of that very story confirmed this.

Confirmed it where? Regardless as was shown on panel juggernaut was moving forward and that indicates it was another type of strength at work there and certainly not his brute physical strength beibng referred to here.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
It was a test of strength. The author of that very story confirmed this.

And he also contradicted that statement as well so that doesn't prove anything. He just answers what fans want from what I understand I've read.

I do believe it was a test of strength. But that's my believe personally.

Originally posted by Galan007
from a physical standpoint, how in the hell do the kurse supporters expect him to get through juggy's force field? afterall, he'd have to get through that before he could ever get a chance to 'BFR' [lol] juggy.

I was about to get to this. When was the last time jugs infamous forcefield was portrayed and how was it portrayed? Is it the source of his durablility? Or is it some external force outside of it. Further whats the nature of this forcefield, is it like a magneto/gl forcefield in the sense that its external or is it something that runs over the full length of his body. Then we have to question whether Jugs can grab a hold of others through his forcefield and vice versa.

Originally posted by Naija boy
I was about to get to this. When was the last time jugs infamous forcefield was portrayed and how was it portrayed? Is it the source of his durablility? Or is it some external force outside of it. Further whats the nature of this forcefield, is it like a magneto/gl forcefield in the sense that its external or is it something that runs over the full length of his body. Then we have to question whether Jugs can grab a hold of others through his forcefield and vice versa.
most of the time juggy's FF is invisible, but here's a rare glimpse of what it actually looks like:

so yes. one would have to get through it before they'd reach juggy's actual body. in kurse's case he'd have to do so physically - a feat i cannot possibly fathom happening.

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as far as juggy being able to strike/grab with the FF up? yes he can: