Which of the following characters can take over OUR world?

Originally posted by masterbruce
they will have to be able to stand against the military might of all our nations combined. Assume we don't know anything about them, including their weaknesses.

Carnage
Iron Man (regular armor)
Colossus
Iceman
Green Lantern (Hal)
Superman
Storm
Magneto
Invisible Woman
Mystique

The only one's powerful enough to take over our world from that list are:
GL Hal
Magneto
Superman
Invisible Woman

This is how i think they could beat the others:
Colossus: a giant magnet
Iron Man: an electromagnetic pulse blast, therefore shutting down his armour.
Carnage: sound grenades, heavy sounds, etc.
Iceman: the army could take him down.
Mystique: the army could take her down.
Storm: use her claustrophobia to their advantage.

Dude. Colossus has been shown to be able to withstand MAGNETO'S magnetic pull. I think he can handle a giant electro-magneto. I'd wager that Magneto is much more powerful than any magnet we have. So since Colossus was able to overpower Magneto's power, I think he'll be able to handle any high-powered magnet we throw at him.

Oh yea, and he doesn't need to EAT/DRINK/BREATHE.

Sorry I keep saying that. Some people just keep posting things saying that he will starve or drown. You can drop him in the ocean all you want. He'll come right back and stomp you.

But how incinble is he can he take a bunker buster to the chest what is his biggest feat of durability.

You can't track Storm via satelite:

http://images.google.com/images?q=hurricane%20satellite&hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-29,GGLD:en&sa=N&tab=wi

Do you see ANY humans in the satelite imagery? Or anything Human sized?

http://images.google.com/images?q=hurricane%20radar&hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-29,GGLD:en&sa=N&tab=wi

Same with Radar. . . She's too small to track. And for you to even try to track her via EITHER of these you'd have to know that she was behind it.

You really think ANYONE would believe that a human could be responsilble for a hurricane?

They'd blame freakish weather on something else first like El Nino. Or find someother excuse.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Dude. Colossus has been shown to be able to withstand MAGNETO'S magnetic pull. I think he can handle a giant electro-magneto. I'd wager that Magneto is much more powerful than any magnet we have. So since Colossus was able to overpower Magneto's power, I think he'll be able to handle any high-powered magnet we throw at him.

Oh yea, and he doesn't need to EAT/DRINK/BREATHE.

Sorry I keep saying that. Some people just keep posting things saying that he will starve or drown. You can drop him in the ocean all you want. He'll come right back and stomp you.

And then there was his Asteroid M. . .

say what you will but sateliites can look directly at someone mowing their lawns. Let's the military can track an ICBM that is around the same size and travels faster than Storm could ever. Secondly that only shows shots of Hurricanes not how they can be traced to the very currents that make them. Maybe they won't catch on at first but eventually they will when a sateliite pics up a woman flying then it is all over.

Originally posted by newjak86
say what you will but sateliites can look directly at someone mowing their lawns.

Show me this. Show mwe a satelite image of enough detail to show someone mowing their lawn.

And then show me one showing the same detail during a hurricane.

Originally posted by newjak86
Let's the military can track an ICBM that is around the same size and travels faster than Storm could ever.

Storm must be massively huge then:

http://www.strategic-air-command.com/missiles/Titan/images/titan1-icbm.jpg

Originally posted by newjak86
Secondly that only shows shots of Hurricanes not how they can be traced to the very currents that make them.

We don't have the technology to track the energy she puts out to trigger the changes in the weather. . .

Oh right I forgot about how huge Storm is.

Originally posted by newjak86
Maybe they won't catch on at first but eventually they will when a sateliite pics up a woman flying then it is all over.

This is whether it's easily detectable that they are using their powers. Something to consider when deciding whether they stand a chance taking over the world.
Carnage - Obvious
Iron Man - Obvious
Colossus - Obvious
Iceman - Covert
Green Lantern - Obvious
Superman - Obvious
Storm - Covert
Magneto - Covert
Invisible Woman - Covert
Mystique - Covert

Please you want proof of what a satellite can do fine. All you have to do is look at the USA evidence presented to the UN for reasons to go to Iraq. Yes I watched them their main evidence consisted of satelitte pictures that showed trucks parked. You could see indivuals walking between them.

also Radar is used to track subs on the other side of oceans track planes during lighting storms all the time. Plus it isn't as hard as you think to discover Strom since the weather she would be causing would be anomalies so they would be traced and scaned to see the cause of it.
As well ICBM maybe 30 to 50 feet but travel at far faster speeds than Storm could ever dream and thet can track it going that fast meaning that tracking something as slow as Storm would be nothing. So she is very trackable.
Besides what is she gonna do through Hurricanes over the planet laughing because that isn't taking over the world that is causing damage and still not taking out her most dangerous foes just causing property damage. She has to show herself to be able to conquer the world that way people see her power and once that happens she is dead dead DEAD.
She is only human after all Magento is only human after all. They fatigue they take damamge they bleed. They are normal they have limits that can be overcome. They can be destroyed by a simple piece of metal. No single person can take over the world when a bullet can kill you. They don't have the endurance energy reserves or durability to do it. They have to sleep they have to be weak they can not do it the world has to many weapons and is to big for it to happen. Superman can do it because he has the durability to take whatever we throw at him even if he gets hit by a bomb head on he still lives. Storm dies Magneto dies that is the point. They can be traced but even still for their power to be effective and felt they have to let the world know they did it. which means they die because they can not keep up the staining energy needed to do it. Plus they would be on the run forever they loose face it they loose they can not do it by themselves they are only human. thier powers can not take on the whole world.

You can track the anomalies in weather. You can track pattern of movement of these anomalies. But how do you discern Storm is the causation? No knowledge is assumed of any of the characters.

She doesn't have to show herself until she wants to. She could destroy crops, cities, cripple economies. She could create chaos and anarchy. Then when the world is weakened she could finally make her move. The characters don't have to make their moves immediately.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You can track the anomalies in weather. You can track pattern of movement of these anomalies. But how do you discern Storm is the causation? No knowledge is assumed of any of the characters.

She doesn't have to show herself until she wants to. She could destroy crops, cities, cripple economies. She could create chaos and anarchy. Then when the world is weakened she could finally make her move. The characters don't have to make their moves immediately.

Why is she flying? She can walk around a city, cause hail the size of tennis balls and no one is any the wiser.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Why is she flying? She can walk around a city, cause hail the size of tennis balls and no one is any the wiser.

Originally posted by newjak86
Let's see a an unidentified flying object in the area could make them wonder why it is there and once they discern that it's all over. Once again she is doing all this with what power levels that don't drain her. To do all this damage would take a long time to try and be secretive not like it would work but who cares right she would be spotted. Anyway you assume that everyone is a dimwit and can't put two and two together. Plus once she is spotted it would take nothing more than a bullet to kill her.

And then when they did start to assumethat it was of a human origin wouldn't they look for a machine or a hostile foriegn government first?

You still haven't proven that she can be tracked during a hurricane.

Electromagnetic waves reflect from any large change in the dielectric or diamagnetic constants. This means that a solid object in air or vacuum, or other significant changes in atomic density between object and what's surrounding it, will usually reflect radar waves. This is particularly true of electrically conductive materials such as metal, making radar particularly well suited to the detection of aircraft and ships.[/b]

No Radar.

And I serieously doubt that you can use a dry, cloudless dessert as fair comparison to a hurricane.

Originally posted by newjak86
Then where is she gonna make the hurricane huh. Plus then she is in danger as well if she is standing around it. If one hits her she is dead as well. So while she is avoiding these tennis ball sized hail how is she gonna keep up the concentration for it?

No need to get testy newjak, your arguing your point I'm arguing mine. However the premise of your argument is that Storm is easily detectable and that she is easily drained. Neither is the case though.

It's actually described as the opposite. What requires concentration is keeping her powers in check. Her mood can affect the weather unconsciously. She's created a severe storm that covered most of North America and a sizeable portion of the Atlantic in less than a day. She wasn't drained from this whatsoever.
Fact is she isn't easily drained. (and neither is Magneto)

None of the strange meteorological phenomena can be directly linked to her. (just as none of Magneto's electromagnetic manipulation can be directly linked to him if I recall)

(BTW I've argued against stormfront's weird Storm powers many times, so no, I'm not a Storm fanboy)

Originally posted by Creshosk
You already assume previous knowledge from a hostile source. Why would they look for a human as the cause of the odd weather?

And then when they did start to assumethat it was of a human origin wouldn't they look for a machine or a hostile foriegn government first?

You still haven't proven that she can be tracked during a hurricane.

Storm doesn't seem to be made of metal. . .

No Radar.

And I serieously doubt that you can use a dry, cloudless dessert as fair comparison to a hurricane.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
No need to get testy newjak, your arguing your point I'm arguing mine. However the premise of your argument is that Storm is easily detectable and that she is easily drained. Neither is the case though.

It's actually described as the opposite. What requires concentration is keeping her powers in check. Her mood can affect the weather unconsciously. She's created a severe storm that covered most of North America and a sizeable portion of the Atlantic in less than a day. She wasn't drained from this whatsoever.
Fact is she isn't easily drained. (and neither is Magneto)

None of the strange meteorological phenomena can be directly linked to her. (just as none of Magneto's electromagnetic manipulation can be directly linked to him if I recall)

(BTW I've argued against stormfront's weird Storm powers many times, so no, I'm not a Storm fanboy)

Originally posted by Creshosk
You seem to think that it's difficult work for her, I mean having practised at it for years I'd think that she'd learn to do such things more easily. . .

Originally posted by newjak86
Once again when the area where the abnormal wheather is discerend and in undentified object is shown then I'm guessing they are gonna try and see what it is.

I'm still not convinced that they'd be able to see the "unidentified object" in the first place.

The hurricane would set up massive interference. . .