Originally posted by jinzin
i wasn't talking to merc in that post.... 馃槙
I was refering to this part:
"mercilous seems to think that conan simply cut everything in the back of the neck and there was no displacement of bones"
Originally posted by MERCILOUSActually simply gcutting the flesh in the BACK of the neck wouldn't do anything that a deadlier chop to the front of the neck failed to do.
I don't know what all this magic blade talk is, he didn't have one to my knowledge and I never knew him to carry one. And the way I read it, there was absolutly no dislocation of any vertebrae. All he did was sever all the flesh in the back of the neck (which later explains Wolvie's brain damage.)
You'd have to damage the spinal cord in order to produce the brain damage.
No magic blade? Then what's making it unbreakable, and able to hurt wolverine in ways a regular blade couldn't?
Yeah, there's alot of why can't wolvie be knocked out crap going on, when any Wolvie fans knows that he's only been knocked out like 2 or 3 times in his entire career. I remember reading an old trading card that said that Hulk was the only one to ever knock out Wolvie (of course that was a while ago.)
Originally posted by Creshosk
I was refering to this part:"mercilous seems to think that conan simply cut everything in the back of the neck and there was no displacement of bones"
Actually simply gcutting the flesh in the BACK of the neck wouldn't do anything that a deadlier chop to the front of the neck failed to do.
You'd have to damage the spinal cord in order to produce the brain damage.
No magic blade? Then what's making it unbreakable, and able to hurt wolverine in ways a regular blade couldn't?
an all new breed of fanboy perhaps?
no I'm just joking..maybe he DOES have one...who knows...
Originally posted by Creshosk
I was refering to this part:"mercilous seems to think that conan simply cut everything in the back of the neck and there was no displacement of bones"
Actually simply gcutting the flesh in the BACK of the neck wouldn't do anything that a deadlier chop to the front of the neck failed to do.
You'd have to damage the spinal cord in order to produce the brain damage.
No magic blade? Then what's making it unbreakable, and able to hurt wolverine in ways a regular blade couldn't?
He lost air to his brain for a prolonged period of time thus the brain damage. He didn't have any loss of motor function or anything like that. I'm not a doctor man that's the way it was written.
And like I said I don't know anything about a magic sword. And cutting flesh is beyond the capability of a fine blade in an age of steel?
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
Yeah, there's alot of why can't wolvie be knocked out crap going on, when any Wolvie fans knows that he's only been knocked out like 2 or 3 times in his entire career. I remember reading an old trading card that said that Hulk was the only one to ever knock out Wolvie (of course that was a while ago.)
he's been KOed to be sure quite a few times...but almost never in a 1on1 confrontation without circumtances.... not by a character through concussive force...massive bloodloss (i.e. sabretooth is something else entirely) off the top of my head..hulk's KOed him twice with a cheap shot on both occasions, a 3rd time out of continuity with repeated hits to the back of the head...thing's KOed him with a bonk...(don't know how cirsumstantial)....sasquatch did it when he got the drop on wolverine...so did vindicator (again..more of an ambush scenario where wolvie didn't want to really fight anways)...once against sabretooth after fighting him all day and falling off a mountain.......that's off the top of my head. but the fact still remains MORE OFTEN THAN NOT...and WITHOUT CIRCUMSTANCES.it's next to impossible to put the runt down....
Originally posted by MERCILOUSThe veins responsible for this are in the front of the neck. And even then he's been chopped in the throat by shingen and wasn't that much worse for wear. . .
He lost air to his brain for a prolonged period of time thus the brain damage.
Originally posted by MERCILOUSBy someone else who's not a doctor, I'd imagine. . but then I'm not a doctor either and I know this stuff. . .
He didn't have any loss of motor function or anything like that. I'm not a doctor man that's the way it was written.
Originally posted by MERCILOUSCutting the flesh is no problem, its the adamantium thats the worry. . .
And like I said I don't know anything about a magic sword. And cutting flesh is beyond the capability of a fine blade in an age of steel?
Why wasn't it cut by Wolverine's claws?
Originally posted by jinzinWolverine was sorta just standing there. . . and thing for some reason in that picture was slightly shorter than wolverine haunched over slightly.
thing's KOed him with a bonk...(don't know how cirsumstantial)....
Of course size depctions of characters fluxcuate from artist to artist. . . I know there's this one artist that drew for Cap'n A. . . but his drawings were rather hideous. . .
Originally posted by Creshosk
Wolverine was sorta just standing there. . . and thing for some reason in that picture was slightly shorter than wolverine haunched over slightly.Of course size depctions of characters fluxcuate from artist to artist. . . I know there's this one artist that drew for Cap'n A. . . but his drawings were rather hideous. . .
good thing the crossovers that have wolverine get beat up are totally and utterly useable for debate but nothing else is...
Originally posted by Creshosk
The veins responsible for this are in the front of the neck. And even then he's been chopped in the throat by shingen and wasn't that much worse for wear. . .By someone else who's not a doctor, I'd imagine. . but then I'm not a doctor either and I know this stuff. . .
Cutting the flesh is no problem, its the adamantium thats the worry. . .
Why wasn't it cut by Wolverine's claws?
Well sure they are, but maybe the writer was just misinformed. And is it veins, or arteries? And of course you know this stuff, now, but it was written a while ago.
As for the sword not breaking, I think it might have later... I can't remember now. Either way there's no reason why it shouldn't last a while. I sword's durability doesn't lie in it's strength. Too strong a metal is brittle, but a flexible blade will tolerate much punishment, like the damascus which bends like sheet metal but can cut slabs of marble.
Originally posted by jinzinNo kidding. . .
good thing the crossovers that have wolverine get beat up are totally and utterly useable for debate but nothing else is...
I mean I realize that characters are often leveled together to make a fight more interesting. . . as a real fight tween spidey and Firelord would be rather boring.
But people don't realize the same thing happens to Wolverine.
We can't have him going around killing every other character, so we're going to slow him way down from the way he normally is up against characters that we don't care if they die . . . so that he can't just speed blitz the non-expendable characters.
Even in his own books against his own villans he's a pain to try and knock out. . . he WAS originally a Hulk villian. . . but that doesn't mean anything either.
Originally posted by MERCILOUSBoth veins and arteries. . the word I was looking for before that also started with a v was vessles. . which refer to both the veins that take away the used blood and the arteries which bring in the fresh blood.
Well sure they are, but maybe the writer was just misinformed. And is it veins, or arteries? And of course you know this stuff, now, but it was written a while ago.
Originally posted by MERCILOUSSimple wear and tear useage breaking isn't what I'm refering to. . . I'm talking about the six razor sharp protrusions projecting out of wolverine's hands.
As for the sword not breaking, I think it might have later... I can't remember now. Either way there's no reason why it shouldn't last a while. I sword's durability doesn't lie in it's strength. Too strong a metal is brittle, but a flexible blade will tolerate much punishment, like the damascus which bends like sheet metal but can cut slabs of marble.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Both veins and arteries. . the word I was looking for before that also started with a v was vessles. . which refer to both the veins that take away the used blood and the arteries which bring in the fresh blood.Simple wear and tear useage breaking isn't what I'm refering to. . . I'm talking about the six razor sharp protrusions projecting out of wolverine's hands.
I wasn't talking about Wear and tear, I think Wolvie broke it later, I seem to recall Conan walking around with a broken sword at Wolvie's doing.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
Well sure they are, but maybe the writer was just misinformed. And is it veins, or arteries? And of course you know this stuff, now, but it was written a while ago.As for the sword not breaking, I think it might have later... I can't remember now. Either way there's no reason why it shouldn't last a while. I sword's durability doesn't lie in it's strength. Too strong a metal is brittle, but a flexible blade will tolerate much punishment, like the damascus which bends like sheet metal but can cut slabs of marble.
i-i don't think conans sword falls into this category...